[Discussion] Us and the NPO

[moe]

Hello everyone, seeing as there has been some discussion in relation to this in light of the NPO's condemnation being repealed, I would like to re-open the discussion on how the shareholders of Lazarus feel. 

I believe there are a few discussion points here: 

1. Ending the war with the NPO
2. Repealing/leaving the APC
3. Anything we would want in exchange from them for 1/2
4. Future diplomatic relations if the first two items are passed 
5. Proscription on NPO citizens

Personally, I think that since most of us agreed with abstaining on the SC vote, and with their condemnation being repealed, it makes sense that this would be a good opportunity to revisit our conflict and potentially ending the war and leaving the APC to re-establish some kind of neutral relationship with the NPO. However, I know last time this discussion was opened, a lot of citizens wished to see a delegate change as well, before anything was done. I feel though if the NPO hasn't been actively hostile recently and are looking to change their image, then we could start the discussions to end the war and leave the APC, but wait until we establish any kind of treaty or any agreement past neutrality.

[Chipmunker]

Ultimately I believe my support lies with ending the war with the NPO but maintaining the APC. Wars on NS are largely useless and meaningless, and the NPO has not been actively hostile towards Lazarus for some time, but they are still by no means our friends and the APC is an important part of our FA platform.

[New Rogernomics]

Since the discussion has started on this, these are some major threads of reference related to when war was declared and the aftermath:

• Proscription of the NPO discussion
  
• War with the NPO discussion
  
• Statement and Apology from the NPO (and discussion)
  
• Statement on the NPO (and discussion)
  

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As for my opinion:

Firstly, I have no objection to ending the war, as continuing it seems pointless given the NPO has shown no interest in undermining Lazarus, and has made efforts to show goodwill. 

Secondly, if we do end the war, given that we are implying by that act that no hostilities exist between our two regions, I would doubt that the APC treaty would exist perpetually though it seems for now most would be resistant to repealing it.  

Thirdly, if and when the APC treaty is repealed, restoration of diplomatic relations would be in order with the New Pacific Order, even if embassies are not re-established. 

Lastly, if we decide to end the proscription, separately from the APC treaty issue, it is reasonable to assume that Aleisyr, Pergamon, Svezjacael, Stujenske, and Feux, will likely be barred from the region by CLS vote*, though other NPO citizens can be accepted/rejected on a case by basis via normal citizenship procedures.

*The option for the CLS to revisit this would still exist, though probably best to be safe for now and discuss status of difficult nations later.

Note: I'll need time to give a more detailed response to 3, though I'd argue a Non-Aggression-Pact would be the agreement to sign with the NPO. Though the APC treaty might complicate that, and if it does a repeal of that treaty would have to occur first.