Leaving the APC

[Debussy]

I want a vote.

[Frankender]

I would rather hear both sides on ending the war before voting.

Seems irresponsible to do anything else.

[New Rogernomics]

Would people here would prefer to vote to end the war before we discuss all of this?

That would make sense, as it would look a lot better to the other members of the treaty if a vote were held to end the war, and then we discussed withdrawal after that.

[Debussy]

If a vote is held and the war continues, could we still pass a Hostile Entities and Persons Act, preventing their members from joining? It would be a good postwar stance that we could implement now.

[New Rogernomics]

If a vote is held and the war continues, could we still pass a Hostile Entities and Persons Act, preventing their members from joining? It would be a good postwar stance that we could implement now.

Not sure what you mean there, as the APC treaty is different from the Hostile Entities and Persons Act.

If the APC treaty is repealed it has no impact upon the Hostile Entities and Persons Act, which would remain in effect.

If the war ended, the Hostile Entities and Persons Act would still remain in effect as well towards the NPO, unless we were to repeal the resolution.

Technically we do not have to be at war with a region to declare them hostile or to retain resolutions passed to declare them hostile.

Realistically though, with or without the Hostile Entities and Persons Act, the CLS can still ban anyone deemed a threat.

[Debussy]

I was not talking about the APC as it relates to the HE&P Act. I was suggesting that we use the HE&P Act against the NPO, even if the war continues and the APC remains in place, unless there is already a resolution? I could not find it in the library. It could be a good measure to keep if and when the war ends.

[Domais]

The assembly can revoke HEAP at any-time, if we end the war then we should have a separate vote on that.

[Wymondham]

I would prefer we vote on ending the war first, as there is no point discussing what we do after the war is over before we have decided whether we want the war over

[Viennaria]

Regarding the NPO War, which, I know, there is a lot of controversy about and it is basically a cold war now anyway, I have a question. This certainly isn't my place to ask, and it is likely a stupid question anyway, but here goes:

A lot of people are campaigning for the end of the war, which would likely break the APC and Osiris's trust. Some also want the war to go on as is, but it is turning into a pointless war. It is obvious that Lazarus needs and extra bit of leverage to end the war, and here is my idea on how to get that leverage, while making everybody happy in the process. Would it be possible to withdraw from the war under a very conditional "Cease-fire" treaty with NPO. The treaty would mostly be for show, and Lazarus would withdraw, saying that they want to devote more time and resources/people to defending Osiris. That way you don't get a bad rep for abandoning Osiris, but you actually get an even better rep for putting your own but on the line to help defend Osiris. This would get anti-war people happy because the war is technically over for us. We would still be keeping the APC by defending Osiris, and pro-war advocates would be happy because you can continue the war to whatever extent you choose, just through the front/jump point of Osiris.

The cease-fire agreement would basically state, under certain consequences, that the NPO and Lazarus may not attack the other unless they are defending their allies (see, it's worthless, right!)

To gain the leverage, we will make a big deal to NPO that we have used the time to grow and recuperate our army, also gaining powerful allies. This should be enough to get them off of our backs for a second, and we could relaunch the war whenever you want.

In other words, everyone is happy and you can still fight the war as much as you want to, if you want to.

If this does interest you and you have any questions, just shoot me a message on NSLazarus or a telegram to my nation (Viennaria) on Nationstates.

Thank You for your time,
Viennaria

p.s. I know I'm just a normal old shareholder with no influence, but I had this idea and felt that there was no harm in at least sharing it.