War with the NPO

[New Rogernomics]

NR, sorry, but I could not disagree more with your assessment.

First, Laz leaving while Osi stays in does not mean that the commitment that Lazarus and Osiris have made in mutual defense vanishes. Lazarus will still have the responsibility (and also the privilege) to help defend its sister sinker from any aggression (including by the NPO). Repealing the Osi treaty, which was not made because of the NPO war, is like burning down the house because a lightbulb needs to be changed.

Second, the same applies to the APC treaty - that can stay and the provisions still apply even without a declared state of war (and I say this as somebody that thinks the APC treaty is dumb).

Third, suppose Osi wishes to end the war as well. At some point one side has to reach out to at least talk about it. It could be us, it could be them, but if Osiris were to also hold the view of "let's wait until they say something", nothing would ever get done. Regular confidential diplomatic talks are presumably happening either way with such a close ally.

Fourth, it is not Lazarus' reputation that will suffer, because if anything, this would be a cascade of events precipitated by Europeia's rescindal of their declaration many months ago. It's Lazarus saying "we're content with what we're seeing over there and don't want to hold on to the war now just because we feel like it".

Fifth, you can end the war and still say "yeah we're upholding the proscription and we don't really want anything to do with you". There's nothing wrong with that. If we had to be at war with anybody we don't want anything to do with, then we'd have to start working on probably a hundred declarations right now.

2. Holding a vote to repeal the treaty with Osiris, as we would no longer be full allies if we leave the NPO war.*
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*Alternatively, amending it to remove provisions that may require us to defend Osiris against the NPO.

Why? Why in Imki's name would we stop defending Osiris against the NPO if we end the war?

What ending the war would do is say "if we see you on the street, we're gonna stop trying to punch you in the face, but we're still not saying hi".

If you leave a war, you need to make an effort to secure peace. Poking the NPO, if we are no longer at war with them is like poking a bear. Don't poke the bear.

Right now, Lazarus is in open declared war against the New Pacific Order, ergo the NPO is fully justified in countering. And that New Pacific Bear, by the way, still holds the strongest reserve force in the game and its updater force is matched only by the NPA on a very good day. The only thing that could have challenged the NPO in open combat was the full coalition back in the day, but even that has fallen to the wayside with Europeia and a bunch of other regions endings its declared state of hostilities.

This is not poking the bear, this is the chihuahua deciding with good reason not to bite the bear in the ankles anymore.

I am not arguing whether this will 100% be the case, but these are four options to deal with a change of diplomatic and military policy towards the NPO, which all depends on what plan we intend to achieve peace with the NPO in the long-term and not just the short-term.

If we are to end the war, it may require us re-visiting the treaty with Osiris, to look into any clauses that may be of issue, and Osiris is within its rights to not continue a treaty with us. Whether it actually chooses to do so is up to Osiris.

What I argue is that if Osiris decides, "hey Lazarus has abandoned us", they wouldn't be wrong for believing so. Even if we disagree with that.