09-25-2018, 11:38 AM
To Sheepshape,
I have no issue with many of the suggestions you have provided and have adopted them accordingly. There are, however, a few instances wherein I either tweaked the language a bit or decided to keep the original text rather than amend it. I will list them here.
I have kept the requirement that applicants state their current or previous affiliations/identities to foreign entities, extending no further back than 12 months prior to the application. I did so as I do not believe it is hard for a person to recall where they have been - the time period specified is only asking for twelve months. In any case, it also provides other citizens with a general idea of who is entering the region (I know that I myself have had to look at people's citizenship applications to know more about their background - I did so for you
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The bill specifies the Delegate as the person with the authority as the Mandate (Section 2 (5)) specifically states that The Delegate may admit residents of Lazarus to citizenship, or may delegate this responsibility to the government official(s) of their choosing.
Given that it allows the Delegate to delegate the responsibility to another official, Section 5 (1) reiterates this point: ‘Delegate’ is defined as the Delegate or in the event the Delegate has delegated this responsibility to a government official(s) of their choosing, the aforementioned official.
With regards to your suggestion of a 'citizenship official' being mandated in this bill and empowering the position with the authority of the Delegate, I understand and support it. I am unsure wherther other people support this and as such, will create a poll to see where people stand on the matter.
I have narrowed the time-limit to: The Assembly may, within two weeks of an approval, initiate proceedings to overturn the Delegate’s approval of an application by three-quarters vote.
The sub-section was included for the intention of preventing or at least countering voter-importation. It was done so with Funkadelia's actions in the C.U. in mind. Back then, had we had the authority, he would not have been able to do it.
I have amended it to go into detail what a LoA entails.
Minimum post-requirements has been a controversial issue. While I amended it to include a requirement, I will include a question on it in a future poll/.
Section 6 has been included in the text as a separate section and placed at the end of the bill as it is a rather important piece of information which I hope people, after reading the law in its entirety, will see as the last thing. I think I drew inspiration for its format from how Osiris writes their constitutional laws.
I have no issue with many of the suggestions you have provided and have adopted them accordingly. There are, however, a few instances wherein I either tweaked the language a bit or decided to keep the original text rather than amend it. I will list them here.
Sheepshape Wrote:... I feel similarly about requiring affiliations and identities ...
I have kept the requirement that applicants state their current or previous affiliations/identities to foreign entities, extending no further back than 12 months prior to the application. I did so as I do not believe it is hard for a person to recall where they have been - the time period specified is only asking for twelve months. In any case, it also provides other citizens with a general idea of who is entering the region (I know that I myself have had to look at people's citizenship applications to know more about their background - I did so for you
)Sheepshape Wrote:Firstly, I'm not actually sure about the Delegate being the one to approve or deny applicants. Not that they don't have a role to play, but the Delegate has a ton of work on their plate and this is pretty easily one that can be farmed out to another official. It could be the Speaker, or a minister created specifically for that role, or we could invent a separate office for appointment/confirmation ("Immigration Specialist" or something like that maybe) - anything to a) take work off the Delegate's busy busy busybusybusybusy hands and b) spread that work, that activity, around to other members of the community. The more people we can get involved and doing things, the better this community will function.
The bill specifies the Delegate as the person with the authority as the Mandate (Section 2 (5)) specifically states that The Delegate may admit residents of Lazarus to citizenship, or may delegate this responsibility to the government official(s) of their choosing.
Given that it allows the Delegate to delegate the responsibility to another official, Section 5 (1) reiterates this point: ‘Delegate’ is defined as the Delegate or in the event the Delegate has delegated this responsibility to a government official(s) of their choosing, the aforementioned official.
With regards to your suggestion of a 'citizenship official' being mandated in this bill and empowering the position with the authority of the Delegate, I understand and support it. I am unsure wherther other people support this and as such, will create a poll to see where people stand on the matter.
Sheepshape Wrote:Moving on! I'm not enamored with this clause [of the Assembly being able to overturn approvals]. For one thing, it has no end date - hypothetically, the Assembly could decide after years that they don't like someone, and vote to overturn their approval. At minimum, it needs to be time-limited. Something like "The Assembly may initiate an overturn of an approved citizenship within two weeks of its approval."
I have narrowed the time-limit to: The Assembly may, within two weeks of an approval, initiate proceedings to overturn the Delegate’s approval of an application by three-quarters vote.
The sub-section was included for the intention of preventing or at least countering voter-importation. It was done so with Funkadelia's actions in the C.U. in mind. Back then, had we had the authority, he would not have been able to do it.
Sheepshape Wrote:So neither of these clauses is outright objectionable, it's just not really clear what they mean. What are the eligibility requirements of citizenship? Are they the things they had to disclose in the application? Are they activity requirements, which I think we should have? And what does a leave of absence do? Does it exempt them from having to keep a nation alive? Are they allowed to log in and vote while on a leave of absence, or would that force an end to their leave?
I have amended it to go into detail what a LoA entails.
Sheepshape Wrote:I'm strongly in favor of a small post-count requirement to maintain citizenship. If we don't have that then the citizenship rolls risk being overburdened by an inactive, non-voting, non-participating populace and there's just no benefit to that kind of citizen. It's not that hard to track; it sounds like this forum can actually keep track of people who aren't meeting it, and we can also build that into a spreadsheet that lists citizens without much difficulty at all. I don't see a reason to restrict where they can post; a spam post should count as much as a governmental post, but having nothing at all just... why even bother.
Minimum post-requirements has been a controversial issue. While I amended it to include a requirement, I will include a question on it in a future poll/.
Sheepshape Wrote:This is the first law where I think I actually support it being a constitutional law; I think the rights of citizenship are important enough to be protected at a higher level than most legislation. But I'm not sure if this really needs to be its own section - can't this just go in the preamble, that it's a constitutional law? And the mandate already defines what that means, so we don't need to say that amendments have to meet constitutional amendment requirements.
Section 6 has been included in the text as a separate section and placed at the end of the bill as it is a rather important piece of information which I hope people, after reading the law in its entirety, will see as the last thing. I think I drew inspiration for its format from how Osiris writes their constitutional laws.