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[Proposal] Treaty of the Sun Amendments
#1
Greetings Shareholders,

First of all, sorry for the mixed-up original presentation of the Treaty of the Sun to this body. We are going to change the way we handle treaties in the future so as to avoid situations like that.

As there were quite a few important issues people had with the original draft of the treaty that we didn't make amendments for before its passage, I'd like to now ask you all to bring forward the issues with the treaty you currently have. The FA team will consider all proposed changes, omissions, etc. and attempt to formulate an amended treaty that will satisfy this body and make a stronger foundation for our relations with Osiris.

Feel free to re-post messages you have made on this topic in another thread or on Discord that you still think are relevant.

[spoiler=Treaty of the Sun, as it currently stands.]
Treaty of the Sun

A treaty to define the fraternal and amiable form of the relationship between the regions of Lazarus and Osiris.
 

Article 1: Recognition

(1) The Osiris Fraternal Order and its legal successors shall recognize the government established by the Twelfth Mandate of Lazarus and any of its legal successors as the legitimate government of the region of Lazarus.
(2) The government established by the Twelfth Mandate of Lazarus and its legal successors shall recognize the Osiris Fraternal Order and any of its legal successors as the legitimate government of the region of Osiris.
(3) Should the government of a signatory voluntarily disband while in exile, the other is freed from the commitments of Article 1, Sections 1 and 2. Additionally, if the new government refuses to recognize this treaty, it is automatically dissolved.

Article 2: Pact of Non-Aggression

(1) Both signatories hereby pledge to not invade, raid, or otherwise attack the other’s region or any possessions they may have, nor aid any faction, government, or party to do so.
(2) Both signatories agree that the deployment of military forces on the opposite side of the other in another region that is not the possession of either does not constitute aggression against either of the signatories.
(3) If planned and agreed upon by the governments and military forces of both signatories, both military forces may engage in offensive raiding or defending action against each other for training purposes, or for their mutual pleasure.

Article 3: Mutual Defense

(1) Both signatories pledge to defend one another militarily against any invasions or similar crises they may suffer.
(2) Both signatories pledge to send any military forces they possess at the request of the other in order to facilitate legitimate delegacy transitions, or in cases of emergency.
(3) Both signatories agree that they shall not aid an enemy at war with the other. If a region declares war on one of these signatories, the other may only choose to stay neutral or aid the signatory in question.
(4) If one of the signatories does not possess any military forces and is called upon the other by the provisions set in Article 3, Sections 1 to 3, they must assemble a military force at the earliest opportunity.

Article 4: Protection Against Infiltration

(1) Both signatories pledge to inform the other’s government and any relevant intelligence services of any evidence they may have of espionage, infiltration, subversion, manipulation, or conspiracy against the other. They shall also inform the other of any conspiracies to commit any crimes in the other’s jurisdictions.
(2) Both signatories pledge to cooperate on matters of intelligence and security.
(3) Both signatories pledge to punish any of their citizens convicted by the other of acting against the other signatory through espionage, infiltration, subversion, manipulation, or conspiracy. They may choose to hold a trial for any of these crimes, or punish the individuals outright. In the latter case, both governments must negotiate any punishments to be given to the individuals in question.
(4) Both signatories shall condemn any acts of espionage, infiltration, subversion, manipulation, or conspiracy against the other if the target of these acts confirm it.
(5) Both signatories pledge to never commit acts of espionage, infiltration, subversion, manipulation, or conspiracy against the other, or aid any faction, government, or party to do so.
(6) If the government of any of the two signatories fail to fulfill the obligations of Article 4, Sections 1 to 5, they must formally and publicly apologize for this.

Article 5: Cultural Cooperation

(1) The relevant cultural authorities of both signatories shall actively cooperate on matters of culture, which may include festivals, games, roleplays, mafia, newspapers, radio shows, podcasts, graphic design, and others. At least one of these must be done annually as a bilateral event, unless in times of emergency. Furthermore, the relevant cultural authorities of both signatories are encouraged to do more than the required one bilateral event per year.
(2) The relevant cultural authorities of both signatories are encouraged to plan and cooperate on a festival celebrating the passage of this treaty.
(3) Citizens of Lazarus and Osiris are welcome to visit the other’s region and engage in events of cultural significance and to have fun with the other’s community.

Article 6: Provisions of Ratification, Amendment and Repeal

(1) Both signatories shall activate their legal mechanisms relevant to ratify a treaty after they agree to do so.
(2) If a signatory wishes to amend this document, they must negotiate with the other to do so. After this, the same legal mechanisms in each region relevant to ratify a treaty shall be activated to adopt these agreed amendments. If one region refuses these amendments, they are to not be adopted.
(3) If a signatory wishes to dissolve this treaty, they must notify, by any means of communication available and possible, their intention to dissolve said treaty to the other. After this, the legal mechanisms relevant to dissolve a treaty shall be activated in the region of the requesting signatory.
(4) The signatories may dissolve this treaty by mutual consent. The legal mechanisms relevant to dissolve a treaty must be activated, and if at least one region decides to repeal, the treaty is declared null and void with immediate effect.[/spoiler]
#2
Since no one has posted a draft revision yet:

Quote:3) Both signatories pledge to investigate any of their citizens convicted by the other of acting against the other signatory through espionage, infiltration, subversion, manipulation, or conspiracy. They may choose to hold a trial for any crimes committed, or censure individuals outright. In the latter case, both governments must negotiate any censuring to be given to the individuals in question.
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#3
Though now I think on it, the last sentence could be altered as well.
Quote:In the latter case, both governments are required to negotiate any censuring to be given to the individuals in question, where it relates to participation in the other region.
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#4
I'd like to see 4:3 outright removed, but failing that I'd at least like to see the executive (the government) made explicitly responsible for pursuing the offender's conviction through the appropriate constitutional means.
There is also some other stuff I'd like to see reworded (particularly the sections relating to military action) but only with the aim of clarifying the intention of the treaty rather than changing its actual meaning.

I wrote a draft with 4:3 amended (though I'd rather see that deleted altogether) and the military stuff reworded here, in the original thread:

https://nslazarus.com/thread-573-post-5512.html#pid5512
#5
I would like to revive debate on this matter. What does Lazarus think now?
#6
(05-12-2019, 01:31 AM)Ryccia Wrote: I would like to revive debate on this matter. What does Lazarus think now?

My position hasn't changed.


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