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[Discussion] Criminal Code Act (September 2018)

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Alrighty, here we go in full.

I approach laws, and particularly criminal codes, from the perspective of "If Mall joined this region, how could he twist things to work out in his advantage? How would he get away scot-free and make us look silly with what we've written? How could our courts or other systems fall short in applying the law as we intend it to be applied?" You get as imaginative as you can with that, then write your laws to compensate. So that's my perspective here; closing loopholes and making sure definitions are as tight as we need them to be.

As a starter, I'm not sure I understand why things are broken up into tiered offenses when they're not tied into any actual punishments linked to tier (i.e., punishments are listed individually, not by group). And it's certainly possible for someone's act of defamation, fraud, or blackmail to be worse than some forms of petty (in the non-technical sense) treason.[note]For those curious, the technical definition of "petty treason" comes from English common law and involves the murder of a superior officer via betrayal.[/note]

I suggest making a simple list of crimes and allowing context and delegate or judicial discretion to determine how severe they are. As such, I've also removed all references to specific punishments. Unless things drastically change, punishments are looking likely to be imposed by the delegate, and I vastly prefer to leave them the power to do what they feel is appropriate given the larger context. I've also moved the definitions into their relevant crimes; that makes it easier to follow IMO. And some of them we really don't need.

Now, on to specific bits:
In order to make provision for the maintenance ofmaintain public law and order, this Aact shall codify the general principles of criminal responsibility incodifies criminal actions in Lazarus. No person may be found guilty of a crime not listed in this act.

This is wordier than it needs to be. I've suggested some changes that tighten it up a bit. I also added the final sentence because holy god is it horrible when someone decides to throw in a new crime in a separate law - it's the stuff of nightmares to a court. Require off the bat that they all belong in here and you avoid that migraine.

(1) Treason

Any person who:
a. engages in conduct with the intention of illegally removing or altering:
i. the Mandate;
ii. the Government; or
iii. the Delegate;
b. levies war, or does any act preparatory to levying war, against Lazarus;
shall be guilty of an offence.

An offender is liable to punishment of an indefinite banishment.

I really don't like the tiering here. Much cleaner to have it all read as a sentence. Like this:
Section 1. Treason
(1) Engaging in conduct with the intention of illegally removing or altering the Mandate, the government, or the delegate of Lazarus will be considered treason.
(2) Levying war against Lazarus, or taking any act to prepare to levy war against Lazarus, will be considered treason.

Section 2. Sabotage

(1) Engaging in conduct which interferes with, destroys, or renders any public infrastructure unusable will be considered sabotage.
(2) 'Public infrastructure' is defined as an area operated by the government or its associated authorities for use of the public, including, but not limited to, the region, forum, and Discord of Lazarus.
(3) Legitimate actions taken by moderators or administrators of Lazarene infrastructure will not be considered sabotage. The root administrator of the infrastructure in question has the ultimate word on what constitutes a legitimate action.

I rephrased the first line here; "rendering unserviceable a noun" was giving me crossed eyes. Render unusable is clearer, I think, and sticking the noun after the verb is just easier reading. I also added a 3rd clause which grants admins exceptions, which I think is important - if an admin has to shut a forum down for a software upgrade, that needs to be fine.
Section 3. Espionage
(1) Knowingly communicating information contained in a restricted area of Lazarus, in part or in whole, to a person or entity which does not have access to that restricted area will be considered espionage.
(2) The individual or government body responsible for a restricted area may sanction the distribution of information to another person or entity. Sharing information whose release has been sanctioned will not be considered espionage.
(3) 'Restricted area' is defined as a section of the regional forum or Discord to which the general public is not granted access.

I broke this one out into a couple sentences for clarity and changed your definition of 'restricted area' (I think mine is a bit more straightforward). I also specified that it's sharing information from Lazarus only.

Section 4. Foreign Interference

(1) Engaging in conduct on behalf of or in collaboration with a foreign entity in order to influence the processes of the government of Lazarus will be considered foreign interference.

I've rephrased this one a bit better, but honestly, I don't like it as a crime. It's extremely vague, and 'influence' is pretty broad. Is it foreign interference if a dual citizen of Lazarus and Balder encourages Imki to make a treaty with Balder? Is it foreign influence for that person to vote against someone who wants Lazarus to invade Balder? Is it foreign influence if that person is a raider and suggests Imki create a raider military?

Allegiances in NS are tricky and I think trying to quantify foreign interference this way is bad news. It's the sort of crime that will likely be used against people who aren't popular, but held back against popular people who do the same sorts of things.

I very strongly urge striking it from your bill. Behavior which rises to the level of a crime can be individually criminalized (e.g., vote stacking).

Section 5. Bribery

(1) Offering, providing, or agreeing to provide a benefit of any kind with the intention of influencing a person in the exercise of that person's governmental duties will be considered bribery.
(2) Asking, receiving, or agreeing to receive a benefit of any kind with a promise that receiving that benefit will influence the exercise of one's governmental duties will be considered bribery.

I think your original 2nd part was not clear so I rephrased it to make it make more sense. I think it's now easier to tell that both making and accepting a bribe will be considered bribery. I also added governmental duties; I don't really think we need to criminalize trying to bribe someone with cupcakes if they make you a national map for example.

I'm not really sold on including it at all, though. I think most of the time it doesn't really warrant standing as its own offense. Someone who says "I'll rule your way on that court review you brought if you vote for me" is separately committing misconduct in their office, not because of the bribery but because they are not ruling according to the law, for example.

But I feel less strongly about this one than I do about the previous one so I won't fight too hard if y'all really want it.

Section 6. Blackmail

(1) Using damaging information against another person to force them to take or refrain from certain actions is defined as blackmail.
(2) When the blackmail or attempted blackmail is done using real life personal information, it will be considered an OOC administrative matter.

I changed your definition here a fair bit; "causing gain or loss" isn't really the right way to go, and blackmail is more than just general intimidation. Almost anything causes some sort of gain or loss, and "If you don't support my bill I'll open a recall vote against you and you know it'll pass" can be pretty intimidating. The key part is holding someone hostage by promising not to reveal to everyone that you know they're a spy or that they are actually someone's sentient pet rock.

I also added in the 2nd clause because there's a major difference between threatening someone IC and threatening them OOC. The latter is best handled by an investigation and ban by forum administration, not by an in-game legal system (regardless of which process we ultimately decide on).

Section 7. Fraud

(1) Knowingly or recklessly making a false statement of material fact will be considered fraud.
(2) A material fact is one which can reasonably and plausibly be expected to affect an individual's future actions.

I also changed this one a lot. Like with blackmail, "advantage" and "disadvantage" are huge things. The relevant portion is knowingly spreading misinformation, so that's what I changed it to be. I also gave that a bit more definition. It's not an issue if I make implausible false statements, like that the moon will fall out of the sky and crush some kittens if the delegate doesn't vote for a resolution in the WA, or if I assert that we shouldn't vote for so-and-so as a minister because they're clearly part of the IRCabal dedicated to the overthrow of all regions in service to their noodly god. Those are patently ridiculous enough that nobody is going to make a decision based on them. But saying that you shouldn't vote for so-and-so because they've been convicted of espionage in another region is plausible, and a reasonable person would take a conviction into account when deciding who should serve where. So lying about that is a big deal.

Or, moving away from targeting an individual (since that might count as defamation instead or in addition), telling people they can vote for ministers by telegramming [violet] is a lie, but silly enough that it shouldn't be considered fraud. But telling them they can vote next week, when the vote is actually going to be over in 2 days, would absolutely be reasonably expected to affect whether they voted in time and thus should count as a crime.

Section 8. Contempt of Court

(1) Intimidating or insulting an individual during a sitting of the Court, intentionally interrupting the proceedings of the Court, and disobeying a direction of the Court will be considered contempt of court.

I rewrote this for you, but I realllllly don't like it. Being disruptive is a moderation issue, not an IC governmental one, and I'd really very much prefer to leave handling obnoxious behavior to the court itself. Punishing people for crimes is challenging in the best of circumstances, and having to put them on trial for being a bit of an ass is excessive. Not to mention, the court would probably either have to bring the charges, or entirely recuse themselves from hearing the charges, to allow for fair treatment.

I very much prefer for this not to be a crime, and for the court's procedures to permit it to basically ignore people who cause a scene. So the justices can just vote and say "This person is prevented from filing reviews with the court for 2 month for their behavior in X". It's a punishment (ignoring) befitting the crime (being attention-grabbing).

Plus, disobeying a ruling of the court is a bigger deal than just being disruptive, and should be treated like a violation of any other part of the law.

So I would strongly urge removing this entirely.

Section 9. Perjury

(1) Knowingly making a false statement to the Court after having taken an oath to tell the truth will be considered perjury.

Rewritten for better, but I still don't like it. I don't see a strong argument for why this needs to be a different crime from fraud. And actually, in your draft you've given plain fraud a *longer* possible punishment than perjury, where perjury requires the violation of an oath in addition to the lie.

I say strike it. Lying is lying, treat it all the same.

I could maybe get behind something along the lines of... criminal interference? Like, lying to the court (or withholding information) such that someone else is punished or some particular outcome is reached that would not have happened if the truth had been told. But still lukewarm even on that.

Section 10. Unlawful Disclosure

(1) Concealing current or previous foreign affiliations or aliases from within the most recent 12 month period in a public declaration will be considered unlawful disclosure.
(2) Engaging in conduct with the intent of holding multiple accounts in a public infrastructure will be considered unlawful disclosure.

I combined your first 2 here and condensed, but I can't say I'm a fan. There's a few reasons why. First of all, I think requiring public disclosure of affiliations and/or aliases is kinda silly. It's one of those ideas that sounds good in theory but really, practically, has basically no impact. All it means is that some people who want to start fresh get in trouble, and you've got one extra crime to throw at someone who conceals their identity in order to coup. It's really just... not a huge problem.

Secondly, there are and can be perfectly valid reasons to hold multiple accounts. Here are a few:
  1. Holding one account as a foreign ambassador and one as a citizen in order to maintain a separation of obligations, access, and identities.
  2. The root administrator keeping the root admin account separate from the regular forum account so that they can share the login with multiple admins for maintenance.
  3. Innocently forgetting that one created an account a while back and making a second one.
  4. Engaging in investigative or undercover work for the delegate or admin team to follow up on reports of misconduct.
And this is literally just off the top of my head as I was typing.

Not to mention, having 2 accounts and calling that "unlawful disclosure" makes my eye twitch. That's not what those words mean.

I strongly encourage you to strike this entirely. Forum administration can be trusted to handle people who try to hide making multiple accounts or use proxies; the delegate and forum administration can handle people who want a separate ambassador account to their lazarus citizen account; and lying about who you are and where you've been can be handled by fraud as needed.

Section 11. Vexatious Behavior

(1) Knowingly instigating or pursuing judicial proceedings without reasonable ground, or engaging in conduct which is an abuse of judicial proceedings, will be considered vexatious behavior.

I changed the name to make it flow better, but this is another one I encourage you to drop. As of now, the court doesn't handle criminal cases, so someone being vexatious really only bugs the court. They're not causing a problem for another citizen. The court is capable of handling annoying behavior; if someone is bringing review after review, the court can simply say "no". And if we also allow the court to define and punish contempt without requiring a trial, the court can deem filing reviews in bad faith to constitute contempt.

Besides, as has been pointed out, having this on the books opens a court up to back and forth accusations of retaliation. It's just not a good idea. Please remove.

Section 12. Defamation

(1) Knowingly or recklessly making a false statement of material fact about an individual will be considered defamation.

This is another one that I really don't think needs to be separate from fraud. Lying about a person is still lying and can still be treated the same way.

At most, I could probably be convinced to get behind one crime labeled fraud, with subsections for different kinds. "Regular fraud is lying, defamation is lying about a person, election fraud is lying about elections, perjury is lying to the court" etc.

But there's just no need to have all of these be slightly different crimes with different punishments - particularly because if you've committed defamation you've *also* committed fraud. The one contains the other already.

Section 13. Conspiracy

(1) Preparing or planning to commit any offense in this code will be considered conspiracy to commit that offense.

I think this is a better definition and I'm fine with keeping it.

Finally, I think we should add a general misconduct crime. As it is, a government official who just doesn't do their job, or who abuses their power but not in one of the ways listed here, hasn't committed a crime. It's good to have a catch-all crime that can handle such issues. I suggest something like the following:

Section Whatever: Misconduct

(1) Knowingly or recklessly violating one's citizenship oath, or any of the laws of Lazarus, will be considered misconduct.

(Specifically I would insert it before Conspiracy because I like having conspiracy last for some reason, but I'm not strongly committed to where.)
 
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Roavin;3156 said:
With regard to Contempt of Court: If the Court compels testimony or evidence, not following that must have a penalty otherwise there's no point to the Court being able to compel testimony or evidence.

I guess, but NS courts really don't have the capacity to compel testimony even with that. Like "Oh no, I'm in NS jail, guess I'll chill in literally any other region for a while." And that's assuming they're even convicted of contempt, for which charges would have to be filed and then heard by an unbiased court (since the court thinking they did contempt renders them unable to adjudicate the accusation fairly).

Plus, we havn't even settled yet if the court will *have* a role in criminal matters, so the idea of compelling someone to write a brief on a constitutional question is kinda silly.

It's best to have contempt dealt with by the court as a routine matter, not as a criminal one.
 
I think a little more clarification would be useful on the sabotage section, as the current reading could easily extend to somewhat obnoxious spammers, which isn't probably something that needs to be this high level, when it can be better dealt with by the relevant authority.

Also, it'd be good to define who counts as an admin, given that section. Something along the lines of 'Delegate & CRS, Discord root and appointed moderators, and Forum root and appointed admins' would be good I think. Also maybe a bit extra punishment/considered harshness in the case of one of the aforementioned doing the sabotage, if that's possible.
 
Regarding compulsion to give evidence: the court could simply conclude that, where it is the most likely explanation, evidence that you refuse to give is damning and consider that refusal as evidence in itself.
 
Could you include a criminal offence that covers those who commit acts prohibited by interregional treaties/conventions that Lazarus has signed?

If Lazarus were to sign, say, COPS, it would be necessary for there to be some infrastructure to enforce that.
 
McChimp;3178 said:
Could you include a criminal offence that covers those who commit acts prohibited by interregional treaties/conventions that Lazarus has signed?

If Lazarus were to sign, say, COPS, it would be necessary for there to be some infrastructure to enforce that.

Does anyone know of any such interregional treaties/etc other than COPS (which would assumedly be covered by OOC admin stuff regardless of signing) that would prohibit individual citizens of regions from doing stuff?

Alternatively, could we not just tack on some relevant stuff (like a comparable crime) to any relevant treaty that Lazarus were to join/sign?
 

I personally believe that including the proposed criminal offence allows us to sign things like COPS with a single assembly vote and without dispersing things like criminal offences like you suggest.

Another example would be any treaty forming an alliance with other regions (which we will undoubtedly want to do in the future). In signing the treaty and making the alliance we would be criminalising acts of treason against them without having to legislate all of that stuff separately.
 
Amerion;3185 said:
McChimp;3178 said:
Could you include a criminal offence that covers those who commit acts prohibited by interregional treaties/conventions that Lazarus has signed?

If Lazarus were to sign, say, COPS, it would be necessary for there to be some infrastructure to enforce that.

Can't remember the acronym or have a link to it, but the long story short is a big inter-regional treaty/agreement saying that forum destruction is bad, and I assume says that those who destroy forums should be shunned.
 

Criminal Code Act (September 2018)Proposed by: Amerion [/align]

Preamble

In order to maintain public law and order, this act codifies criminal actions in Lazarus.

Section 1. Treason

(1) Any person who engages in conduct with the intention of illegally removing or altering, the Mandate, the Government or the Delegate, or levies war, or does any act preparatory to levying war, against Lazarus, shall be guilty of treason.

Section 2. Sabotage

(1) Any person who engages in conduct with the intention of significantly disrupting, destroying, or rendering a public infrastructure unusable, shall be guilty of sabotage.

(2) Legitimate actions taken by off-site property administration of the public infrastructure shall not be considered sabotage. The root administrator of the infrastructure in question has the ultimate authority on what constitutes a legitimate action.

Section 3. Espionage

(1) Any person who knowingly communicates information contained in a restricted area of Lazarus, in part or in whole, to a person or entity which does not have access to that restricted area, shall be guilty of espionage.

(2) The individual or government body responsible for a restricted area may sanction the distribution of information to another person or entity. Sharing information whose release has been sanctioned shall not be considered espionage.

Section 4. BriberySection 5. Blackmail

(1) Any person who threatens to, attempts, or uses damaging information against a person in an effort to force them to take, or to refrain from, certain actions, shall be guilty of blackmail.

(2) Any person who threatens to, attempts, or uses real-life information against a person, shall be addressed as an out-of-character administrative matter.

Section 6. Fraud

(1) Any person who knowingly or recklessly makes a false statement of material fact, shall be guilty of fraud.

Section 7. Inter-regionally Prohibited Act

(1) Any person who engages in conduct expressly prohibited in a treaty or convention of which Lazarus is party to, shall be guilty of an inter-regionally prohibited act.

Section 8. Contempt of Court

(1) Any person who intimidates or insults a person during a sitting of the Court, intentionally interrupts the proceedings of the Court, or disobeys a direction of the Court shall be guilty of contempt of court.

Section 9. Vexatious Behaviour

(1) Any person who instigates or pursues judicial proceedings without reasonable ground, or engages in conduct which is an abuse of judicial proceedings, shall be guilty of vexatious behaviour.

Section 10. MisconductSection 11. Conspiracy

(1) Any person who prepares or plans to commit an offence enumerated herein, shall be guilty of conspiracy to commit that offence.

Section 12. Guilt and Sentencing

(1) No person may be found guilty of a crime not listed in this act.

(2) If found guilty of a crime, the Delegate may impose upon the person any punishment proportionate to the offence.

Section 13. Definitions

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I have amended the bill. The bill in its current state is visible in the post above.

Sheepshape

As per your suggestions, I have changed the sections relating to:
  • Preamble;
  • Punishments;
  • Treason;
  • Sabotage;
  • Espionage;
  • Bribery;
  • Blackmail;
  • Fraud;
I have also removed:
  • Foreign interference;
  • Perjury (which now goes into Misconduct);
  • Unlawful disclosure; and
  • Defamation (which now goes into Fraud).
I have chosen to retain:
  • Contempt of court; and
  • Vextagious behaviour (these may be removed depending on what state the judiciary takes in the future)
Tempest Shadow

In regards to sabotage, I changed 'interfering' with 'significant disrupting'. I hope the language will allow for greater differentiation between an obnoxious spammer and someone with a more malicious intent.

McChimp

I added a section on 'inter-regionally prohibited act' to address your concern.
 
McChimp;3212 said:
Do you intend to limit the punishments for each offence with this law? Maximum sentences and so on?

I am unsure about this. I had done so in the earlier versions of this bill but I removed it at the suggestion of Sheep. I suppose it depends on how we wish to define the Delegate's authority. Should there be some constraints applied or should the Delegate have discretion in handing down punishment as she or he sees fit?
 
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