Can I still get a starting balance even though I already put money in? D:

I'm inclined to vote against for reasons that I've discussed before -- but if we have to have a military, this looks good to me.

Nevermind, worked it out! :D

I don't think any of our terms were outright ignored?

I don't understand haha. We can deposit money in the bank? How?

Why did we set terms then, if the response wasn't going to have any effect on our position? Doesn't seem right to me.

I still disagree. I've explained why I find that reasoning for having a military unconvincing. Why do we need mutual defence treaties? Interregional intervention does not end coups. These treaties honestly just provide a false sense of security. It's not about how the NPO perceives us, it's...

I'm curious really -- what do people think a state of war will achieve? In all likelihood we will be creating a military for a war that never really eventuates. It's a lot of work to do nothing. We can send a strong message without wasting our time by proscribing the Order.

Are you also secretly Glen-Rhodes?

I do not think we should go to war.  :huh: Let me try to explain the reasons I think this. A war against the Pacific would not achieve anything. The Pacific is a fortress state and, no matter how many regions align against it, it will not fall to military force. That's not to say the NPO...

Thank you, looks better. Can we maybe break it up a bit? Like so: c. taking up arms against Lazarene operations which are: i. conducted in the defence of regions with which we are allies; ii. within regions with which we are at war; iii. within regions that are allies of regions with which we...

As discussed on Discord -- I'm willing to support I guess if it is at least made more clear that "c" only applies in situations where Lazarus has declared a formal state of war. As explained I feel the current wording is insufficiently clear on that.

You said: "It's interesting to me that some of the people who claim to be defenders, like yourself and Roavin, are so nonchalant about this. I wonder what the NPO has to do that would have you folks not going for the "exaggerated yawn and slightly too emphatic meh" approach. For as much as...

I'm going to have to be against, pretty much just on principle. I don't think it is necessary that all citizens support all actions by the Lazarus government, and I don't regard opposition to military operations as particularly treasonous.

I would like to thank Lord of Darkness for actually consistently responding to us here at least. This open dialogue is more than I've seen from an Emperor in years.

I don't think it's entirely fair to say he's shilling for the NPO. You've basically accused me of doing the same thing, because I was fairly nonchalant about the leaks and don't really support military action against them -- this accusation coming despite my consistent criticism of the NPO for...

I can only speak for myself, but I don't think there's a great need to sift through everything that happened then. A lot of people fucked up. You thought you saw something bad happening and tried to stop it.

I don't really understand. Maybe the new Emperor can help me out here. :P Why will Pergamon forever hate us? Is it because he and his friends orchestrated acts of invasive espionage and destabilisation in our regions? Is it because he was caught doing so and we said that wasn't really...

You'll be back soon enough I imagine :P

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