Statement and Apology from the New Pacific Order to Lazarus
#21
The problem is that we can't have any confidence any of these terms will continue to be met long-term. The NPO has a history of removing people from office and banning them, but later reinstating them. That was the entire reason Feux, AMOM, and Stujenske were "freed up" to come infiltrate Lazarus and Osiris as Adytus, Wrektopia, and Kowassati. It wasn't a real exile for them; it was like a fun, subversive luxury vacation. Even after discovering that Feux had infiltrated Lazarus and Osiris as Adytus, that didn't stop Aleisyr from reinstating him to the Senate. And that isn't the only example of this happening; it's just the most egregious. There have also been instances of Pergamon being demoted due to the problems he caused between the NPO and other regions, only to be reinstated later. After his 2013 coup of the South Pacific, Milograd was sent into exile from the NPO, only to later be reinstated once again and even dispatched to other regions as the NPO's foreign affairs representative. This is a clear pattern of behavior the NPO has perpetrated over and over again.

There's simply no way we can have any confidence in any of this. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. Letting this happen again would be about the fourth time Lazarus and other regions have allowed themselves to be fooled by the NPO in recent years. We shouldn't let it happen again. The NPO is, has always been, and will always be our enemy.

NPO delenda est.
Cormac Skollvaldr

"We are all misfits living in a world on fire." - Kelly Clarkson, "People Like Us"
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#22
It appears to me that the brand of Francoism promoted under the reign of Aleisyr and Pergamon is decisively unfriendly to the interests of regional sovereignty for both GCRs and UCRs alike. I understand your leadership has come about because of the need for damage control, but I remember clearly how after the NLO, the Order went quiet for a good long while and came back swinging the same hammer while expressing contrition for what they had done before. I cannot accept that every time the NPO screws up, they can put in a new Emperor and distance themselves from the people who they served for many years, only to screw up the same way inevitably. The diplomacy is appreciated, but NPO presence cannot be tolerated in gameplay any further.
The Enlightened Fellows of Wycliffe
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#23
I would like to thank Lord of Darkness for actually consistently responding to us here at least. This open dialogue is more than I've seen from an Emperor in years.
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#24
(12-02-2018, 06:10 PM)Cormac Wrote:
The problem is that we can't have any confidence any of these terms will continue to be met long-term. The NPO has a history of removing people from office and banning them, but later reinstating them. That was the entire reason Feux, AMOM, and Stujenske were "freed up" to come infiltrate Lazarus and Osiris as Adytus, Wrektopia, and Kowassati. It wasn't a real exile for them; it was like a fun, subversive luxury vacation. Even after discovering that Feux had infiltrated Lazarus and Osiris as Adytus, that didn't stop Aleisyr from reinstating him to the Senate. And that isn't the only example of this happening; it's just the most egregious. There have also been instances of Pergamon being demoted due to the problems he caused between the NPO and other regions, only to be reinstated later. After his 2013 coup of the South Pacific, Milograd was sent into exile from the NPO, only to later be reinstated once again and even dispatched to other regions as the NPO's foreign affairs representative. This is a clear pattern of behavior the NPO has perpetrated over and over again.


Ironically some of our older government from when Feux was "freed up" aren't particularly big fans of him. From instance Krulltopia and I were chatting about everything recently after my appointment. His initial reaction to everything was essentially "I assume Feux got back into the senate and screwed things up?" The amount of headaches and problems he's caused us with his shenanigans are unlikely to result in him ever being allowed to return. Neither NPO, Lazarus, nor any other region should continue being his playground to gallivant between every few years.

Aleisyr's reappointment of Feux to the senate was a mistake, especially since it was coupled with a distinct lack of discussion about Feux's past deeds. Perg's reinstatement as Consul was also another screw up. Nowadays Milograd's only role in NPO is to help with drafting World Assembly resolutions which is where Feux should have been kept.
 
(12-02-2018, 06:29 PM)Wycliffe Wrote:
It appears to me that the brand of Francoism promoted under the reign of Aleisyr and Pergamon is decisively unfriendly to the interests of regional sovereignty for both GCRs and UCRs alike. I understand your leadership has come about because of the need for damage control, but I remember clearly how after the NLO, the Order went quiet for a good long while and came back swinging the same hammer while expressing contrition for what they had done before. I cannot accept that every time the NPO screws up, they can put in a new Emperor and distance themselves from the people who they served for many years, only to screw up the same way inevitably. The diplomacy is appreciated, but NPO presence cannot be tolerated in gameplay any further.


I agree that Francoism was twisted away from what it is supposed to be. Unlimited's "Proper Francoist Thought" piece from 2005 went as far as to explicitly criticize the usage of infiltration as a means of "purifying" GCRs from the influence of external forces.

I don't intend for us to fully sink into isolation after this. You are right to say that we should decrease our presence in gameplay but neither should we adopt silence and fuel concerns of us repeating the past again. There needs to be a balance between the two where we still cooperate with other regions.
 
(12-02-2018, 11:05 PM)Arlo Wrote:
I would like to thank Lord of Darkness for actually consistently responding to us here at least. This open dialogue is more than I've seen from an Emperor in years.


Thanks for your appreciation. Perhaps at some point, under better circumstances, we can see about doing an official Q&A with Lazarus.
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