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Government Shortcomings and How We Should Address Them - Imaginary - 10-04-2019

Security Auditor Imkiville hasn't logged into her nation in 46 days, hovers just 17 endorsements above the regular endo cap and has been quite inactive and inaccessible on Discord and the forums for months. While she has done an enormous amount of good for our region and I don't mean to like try to drag her down from that, we need people who will be around to help if needed as CLS members and I'm not sure she's currently able to do that.

As fellow Shareholders, what are your all thoughts on her recent performance? Should anything be done about it?

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Security Auditor Killer Kitty, while accessible on Discord, has not logged into his nation in 15 days and has not tarted for an even longer period of time. At the moment his endo count is 12 endos over the normal endo cap. Considering his activity on Discord, I think he would be around if needed, but his failure to maintain a very high endorsement count due to not tarting could hurt his ability to assist the region in a crisis.

What are your thoughts on his recent performance. How can we help him tart more actively on-site?

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CEO Treadwellia has not addressed citizenship applications since the 14th of last month, 3 weeks ago. I contacted him over a month ago asking if he would like me to help with Cit applications and he agreed it would be a good thing, but despite mentioning it to him twice since and him saying he'll be working on it, he still hasn't delegated that ability to me.

What are your thoughts on his recent performance? How can we help him do his duties as a CEO in a more timely manner?

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I'd also of course like to hear from the three officials mentioned. Do you have any plans to change your behaviour? If so, how do you plan on doing so?

RE: Government Shortcomings and How We Should Address Them [DISCUSSION] - joWhatup - 10-04-2019

On Imki:
Imki has rl troubles going on. While I agree her inactivity is concerning, I do not think it is necessary for us to take action.

On Killer Kitty:
I do agree that Killer Kitty should tart more actively and raise his endocount.

On Treadwellia:
Tubbius also has rl troubles going on, is my understanding. He’s been active on the RMB, but applications take time to process. Personally, my solution would be that he appoints someone to approve these applications for him. NR, in his position as Vice-Felegate, would be a good pick.

As for Imkiville and Killer Kitty, it could be an option to perhaps have programs like Tuesday Tarting and LazENDO actively notify people they should endorse the Auditors. On a personal note, my time in IM has seen relatively little action, but I do have time, which is why I’ll offer to check Auditor endorsements weekly and encourage those not endorsing to endorse the Auditors.

That’s it for now.

RE: Government Shortcomings and How We Should Address Them [DISCUSSION] - Wymondham - 10-04-2019

I broadly agree with Jo's comments but I think regarding Imki we should take a look at the situation again in about 1 and a half months to see if we see any change on that front. If not then I think we should have a discussion on Imki's performance then

RE: Government Shortcomings and How We Should Address Them [DISCUSSION] - Legalist Zombal - 10-04-2019

I don't see why we should wait. "Let's just have his same discussion in a month". I know RL sucks for Imki but I think we need to properly consider **now** if we want her to stay or not. Her situation has not changed much in a long time (or she hasn't told us of it's changing).

KK I would support removing from his office. While he has been discord active I do not personally trust him due to his past actions.

Tubbs is - I say again - in over his head a bit. I think he needs to allow IM to handle applications for citizenship. If he refuses to even do something as simple as delegate these tasks when his RL is preventing him from doing them then we need to consider if he is dedicated to Lazarus.

RE: Government Shortcomings and How We Should Address Them [DISCUSSION] - whatermelons - 10-04-2019

I agree that action has to be taken quick. Even if its RL trouble, well that is unfortunate, but it still makes you not suitable for a job that involves regular involvement and security

RE: Government Shortcomings and How We Should Address Them [DISCUSSION] - New Rogernomics - 10-04-2019

The Council of Lazarene Security is certainly not as active as I would like, which meant I had to use a lot of regional influence to eject those grossly above cap several months back. That's why I asked Treadwellia about a new list of candidates to add to it, so that when we have to eject nations no one nation is losing a lot of influence. Certainly we could move to remove Imkiville or Killer Kitty, though they do reach the minimum requirements for membership. Technically CLS members are not required to be active to eject nations, and instead can just support the Delegate and keep high influence. 

Though, it really depends on whether the region thinks that is enough or whether we want a higher level of activity for membership.
 
Quote:CEO Treadwellia has not addressed citizenship applications since the 14th of last month, 3 weeks ago. I contacted him over a month ago asking if he would like me to help with Cit applications and he agreed it would be a good thing, but despite mentioning it to him twice since and him saying he'll be working on it, he still hasn't delegated that ability to me.

What are your thoughts on his recent performance? How can we help him do his duties as a CEO in a more timely manner?
Well, technically a Delegate can withhold accepting applications, as long as they eventually do decline or accept them. 

The application process can be slow at times, though it is not so slow that apps aren't processed within a week or so of someone applying.

And plenty of other regions can have just as slow processes for security reasons.

Though, I think we need wider constitutional changes to get Lazarus moving, and relying on the Delegate to exclusively do citizenship applications can create more of a strain on the Delegacy than there needs to be.

I have talked with others via DM over the various amendments in the Assembly, though I haven't got a response back and I can't add to someone else's amendment without permission, so I will be proposing a new amendment within the month. 

The key things I am thinking of suggesting are:
1) The Delegate stays as a Head of State in a Security Role, with veto power on citizenship*, effectively acting as the guardian of the region. 
2) The CLS can decide citizenship applications, or designate one in their number to oversee applications. 
3) Ministers/Directors are elected every three or four months, and they campaign to be elected.

Optional things we could do are:
1) Allow Ministers/Directors to run for a portfolio/ministry they propose in an election.
2) Create a Chancellor/Prime Minister to be Head of Government.

*Which would be able to be overridden by a vote of the Assembly.

RE: Government Shortcomings and How We Should Address Them [DISCUSSION] - Legalist Zombal - 10-04-2019

I agree we need to allow IM to do citizen applications.

Other regions might have slow application processes but not for the same reasons. In TNP, for example, the VD needs to check you as well as Admins and iirc the Speaker. Speaker to make sure app is correct, VD to make sure you arent a threat and Admin to make sure you aren't using a VPN or share an IP with a bad dude. This can take some time but they are generally done much faster than our's have been done lately. Even over in HRF we have Integration check app and Admins check IP. However those generally take maybe 1 to 2 days. I don't see *any* reason these apps should be taking this long, even less reason when Tubbs hasnt been discussing them but simply has been neglecting his duties as CEO and Delegate.

RE: Government Shortcomings and How We Should Address Them [DISCUSSION] - joWhatup - 10-04-2019

Legalist Zombal;6968 Wrote:KK I would support removing from his office. While he has been discord active I do not personally trust him due to his past actions.

Actions such as?

I agree with the IM part. On response to Imki, yes, we should decide soon, but we don't need to go about that decision right now. We have enough slots open for new BC officers for Auditors, and should Imki return to activity, which I hope will be soon, she more then deserves to be in that spot, after all she's done for us. So, I'd say we don't need to take action right now, since it doesn't threaten our region's functioning. As said, the IM being allowed to approve citizens would solve the immediate issue we are dealing with here.

RE: Government Shortcomings and How We Should Address Them [DISCUSSION] - New Rogernomics - 10-04-2019

Quote:I agree we need to allow IM to do citizen applications.
The CLS is more appropriate as a long-term solution though, as it is already in a security role, and is essentially apolitical. 

Constitutionally though right now the Delegate can appoint anyone.

Basically the key things when deciding citizenship are:
1) Is X using a IP proxy or hiding a second forum account?
2) Is X lying on their application?
3) Is X a member of the NPO? 
4) Would X be a threat or destabilizing force in the region?

So realistically it has to be someone who can decide upon security implications as well as whether they meet the really basic requirements.

If we are to divide responsibilities, then the CLS would need the final say on whether someone should be given citizenship, whether or not a Speaker or Admin does their own checks.

RE: Government Shortcomings and How We Should Address Them [DISCUSSION] - Legalist Zombal - 10-04-2019

I think we should split it. CLS checks the nation/person for security (Are they NPO, are they a threat) and then Admins check IP for Proxy or if they are banned or evading or whatever. Then IM Director checks to make sure application was correct.