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[Proposal] Charter of the Lazarene Regional Guard (December 2018) - Cormac - 12-07-2018
Quote:Charter of the Lazarene Regional Guard (December 2018)
Proposed by: Cormac
Section 1. Establishment of the Lazarene Regional Guard(1) The Lazarene Regional Guard will be the sole military force of Lazarus, neutral in alignment.
(2) The Delegate will be the commander-in-chief of the Regional Guard. The Delegate may appoint a minister to serve as operational commander of the Regional Guard, subject to all provisions for appointment and removal of a minister. Operational command authority may be further delegated to a chain of command subordinate to the minister.
(3) The command, conduct, and membership criteria of the Regional Guard may be further regulated by law or by executive policy.
Section 2. Establishment of Military Neutrality
(1) The regional military alignment of Lazarus will be neutral. Lazarus will bear the Neutral tag at all times.
(2) Lazarus may not bear any of the following tags: Defender, Imperialist, Independent, or Invader.
(3) The Regional Guard may only engage in the following types of operations:
a. Defense of Lazarus;
b. Defense of Lazarus' treaty allies, if mandated by treaty terms;
c. Invasion of regions upon which Lazarus has declared war, and defense of other regions against their military forces;
d. Defense of other Feeders and Sinkers at the request of their legitimate governments;
e. Assistance in other regions' legal Delegate transitions at the request of their legitimate governments;
f. Offensive or defensive training operations in game-created Warzone regions;
g. Invasion of fascist regions and defense of regions against fascist military forces;
h. Invasion of regions which pose a substantial threat to the out-of-character security or safety of NationStates players, and defense of regions against forces which pose such a threat.
(4) The Assembly may enact a resolution empowering the Regional Guard to invade a region that is the ally or protectorate of a region upon which Lazarus has declared war. Such a resolution may be approved or rescinded by two-thirds vote of the Assembly.
Section 3. Constitutional Law Designation
(1) This Charter is designated as a constitutional law, and will be subject to all requirements for enactment, amendment, and repeal of constitutional laws.
RE: Charter of the Lazarene Regional Guard (December 2018) - Cormac - 12-07-2018
I've removed what used to be Section 3, because I think it belongs in a different law to regulate the military, not in a constitutional law. Constitutional laws should only establish basic frameworks, not meticulous details.
For reference though, this is what used to be Section 3, and could be used in further military-related legislation:
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Quote:Section 3. Regulation of Destructive Tactics[/spoiler]
(1) The Regional Guard may participate in operations that involve the ejection or ban of natives, the imposition of a regional password, or the forcible refounding of a region only with the explicit approval of the Delegate and only if such operations meet the following criteria:
a. The operation is against a region upon which Lazarus has declared war;
b. The operation is against a fascist region;
c. The operation is against a region that poses a substantial threat to the out-of-character security or safety of NationStates players;
d. The operation is a defensive operation requiring such tactics, as authorized by the current legal head of government of the region being defended or, in the absence of such legal head of government, a regional official with legal status sufficient to authorize such tactics.
(2) The Regional Guard may only participate in operations that involve such tactics under circumstances that fail to meet the established criteria with the approval of the Assembly, as requested by the Delegate. Approval of such tactics may be enacted or rescinded by two-thirds vote of the Assembly.
(3) The Regional Guard may not knowingly deploy for any operation led by another region or organization that will involve the use of such tactics in violation of this Charter. Should the Regional Guard become aware such tactics will be used in violation of this Charter during the course of an operation, the Regional Guard will immediately withdraw from the operation.
(4) In the course of a training operation in a game-created Warzone region, the Regional Guard may replace the Warzone region's World Factbook Entry and flag, but will preserve the native World Factbook Entry and flag for future native use by posting such on the Warzone region's Regional Message Board. The Regional Guard will refrain from any other use of regional controls in the Warzone region that would disrupt, suppress, or destroy native-imposed content.
a. A training operation in a game-created Warzone region led by another region or organization will not be bound by these requirements, but the Regional Guard's operational command will privately suggest optional adherence to these requirements to the operational command of the region or organization leading the operation.
(5) In the course of a defensive operation, the Regional Guard will maintain a minimally disruptive presence in the region being defended, and will only post on the Regional Message Board if invited to do so by the current or most recent native Delegate, or authorized to do so by the Regional Guard's operational command should they deem it necessary to communicate with natives.
RE: Charter of the Lazarene Regional Guard (December 2018) - Arlo - 12-08-2018
I'm inclined to vote against for reasons that I've discussed before -- but if we have to have a military, this looks good to me.
RE: Charter of the Lazarene Regional Guard (December 2018) - Lukatonia - 12-08-2018
I support Lazarus having a standing military
I see Training in the warzones as a great opportunity that is often under utilized
RE: Charter of the Lazarene Regional Guard (December 2018) - Vulturret - 12-11-2018
This bill, if passed, would be both extremely detrimental to Lazarus' ability to posses broad strength and to its ability to properly fulfill the best interests of the region. The bill, more broadly, is written in a way that is sympathetic to the author's current Gameplay views, however ever-changing those may be, rather than in a way that is beneficial to Lazarus.
The mere thought that Lazarus would adopt this bill is of course as laughable as it is absurd. This horrendous bill has no place in the Lazarene Law Index, nor does it reflect the actual reality of what is best for Lazarus. This bill portrays Lazarus as exactly what it shouldn't be - a region with a hyper-restricted military that cannot be used to Lazarus' advantage. Whilst this bill does plenty to help Lazarus' allies (which is in no way a bad thing) and other regions randomly (an extremely absurd clause which is wholly unnecessary), I'm not sure what advantage this bill poses for Lazarus.
I am not denying that there are several decent elements about this bill (and Cormac more generally is a fantastic legislator, even if I disagree with much of what he legislates), but there are many unfortunate clauses which I shall endeavor to explain corrections for in the below:
Quote:(1) The regional military alignment of Lazarus will be neutral. Lazarus will bear the Neutral tag at all times.Personally, I would support Lazarus adopting the Independent ideology (as defined by the ever-present Independent Manifesto), rather than maintain a "neutral" alignment. This is in no way a personal preference (as I am personally more of an Imperialist and raider), but rather an ideology adopted by both Balder and the North Pacific that is the best for game-created regions, as it allows them to participate in military operations in a variety of ways that are beneficial to them and of their own choosing. There is absolutely no benefit to Lazarus being restricted to the types of operations that you have personally selected. I am slightly appalled that you are shaping the region in this way, but it is of course your right to promote the legislation you see fit.
(2) Lazarus may not bear any of the following tags: Defender, Imperialist, Independent, or Invader.
The fact of the matter is that neutral alignments do not exist. A region can not truly remain neutral, in all steps for intervention there is a decision that must be made by the relevant commanders and command structures that cannot be reasonably construed as "neutral." It is therefore logical to conclude that Lazarus should be an Independent region - one that does operations to its choosing (except of course when legally bound by internal law or diplomatic documents) and for its gain. This power to conduct operations "for your own gain" (so to speak) is of course a power that comes with great responsibility. The Commander-in-Chief and her delegates would naturally need to exercise caution in military deployments, considering whether or not it is warranted and in the best interests of Lazarus, as well as weighing the internal and external political potential for benefits to reap and repercussions to deal with. This is a critical responsibility which I would trust the Commander-in-Chief and her delegates to exercise responsibly.
I haven't the time at this point to address the various specific provisions of the limited options of mission types to participate in, but I of course have made my view on expanding that and making it discretionary rather clear above. I would like to hear input of the Citizenry on this.
RE: Charter of the Lazarene Regional Guard (December 2018) - Legalist Zombal - 12-11-2018
The independent manifesto has many bad traits. I give my full support to this bill and am unaligned military of Lazarus.
RE: Charter of the Lazarene Regional Guard (December 2018) - Cormac - 12-11-2018
While the swipe at me in Vulturett's first paragraph is cute, the neutrality in the bill is based on broad support for neutrality in Lazarus. I don't have any personal preference for it. What I do have a preference for is actually creating a military, which we're not going to do if the community won't vote to create one.
RE: Charter of the Lazarene Regional Guard (December 2018) - Arlo - 12-11-2018
Not sure the various swipes in your post were super necessary tbh Vulturret. There are ways to disagree without being silly -- let's not default to attacking each other.
"The bill, more broadly, is written in a way that is sympathetic to the author's current Gameplay views, however ever-changing those may be, rather than in a way that is beneficial to Lazarus."
No. The way he's written it is more or less what the majority of the region has expressed when asked about their feelings on the matter. I strongly support neutrality too, so if you're gonna argue that's just Cormac's current agenda you can toss that opinion in the trash because it's provably wrong.
"The mere thought that Lazarus would adopt this bill is of course as laughable as it is absurd. This horrendous bill has no place in the Lazarene Law Index, nor does it reflect the actual reality of what is best for Lazarus."
Was the aggressively melodramatic language necessary? Take it from me -- it rarely helps your position. You could have just said "I don't think this bill is what is best for Lazarus". The rest of this is fluff and honestly a bit mean spirited.
"Personally, I would support Lazarus adopting the Independent ideology (as defined by the ever-present Independent Manifesto)"
My turn to be melodramatic? Yes I think so. I had to physically suppress a gag reflex when I read this part. My thoughts on that particular manifesto can be summed up as "please no" -- this coming from someone present at the negotiations where it was originally drafted, so yeah, I think I'm qualified to speak on the subject.
RE: Charter of the Lazarene Regional Guard (December 2018) - Ryccia - 12-11-2018
How intriguing, Vulturret. Please, instead of launching such bold insults with such sharp and over-the-top language, peruse Lazarene history instead.
This is what Lazarus needs: a restricted military. How many times have R/D politics torn us apart before the region learns its lesson? This fear is perfectly legitimate, more so if you observe our past. R/D politics lead to the poisoning of a society such as Lazarus. If we ever adopt a more standard military, I fear for our future. For we shall lean one way or the other, and given that raiders, defenders and everyone in between inhabit this land, we should not shoot ourselves in the head again.
This "Independence" manifesto proposal of yours is also absurd. Lazarus must not be aligned with any ideology whatsoever: our history has shown the devastation it can cause. Moreover, we may, in a worst-case scenario, end up restricted in foreign policy to a set of regions like Balder (which I am not particularly fond of). When we have capital "I" Independence and miniscule "i" independence as two separate terms in NSGP terminology, do we want Independence, or independence?
Unless you lived under a rock during the ConCon, there was near-universal support, if not unanimous approval for bills like these: a restricted military which shall never be a threat to us ever again. This is not the personal ideals of Cormac, but of the majority of Lazarus.
RE: Charter of the Lazarene Regional Guard (December 2018) - TempestShadow - 12-11-2018
Manifestos and ideology is dumb, unaligned is the way to go.