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[Discussion] End the War with the NPO - whatermelons - 04-07-2021 As per (5) I. of the Twelth Mandate of Lazarus, Quote:(5) The Assembly may declare war against another region or organization, and repeal a declaration of war, at the request of the Prime Minister, by two-thirds vote. Hence, I hereby request that this assembly debate and vote on a repeal of the declaration of war on the NPO. In my campaign thread for PM, I stated that "We are fighting a pointless war against a region that attacked us eons ago, who now have a new, less warmongering administration, especially when allies such as Osiris have already called for an armistice". I believe the assembly should revisit the topic of war with the NPO. Original motion to start the war by Imki: Quote:Citizens of Lazarus, RE: [Discussion] End the War with the NPO - New Rogernomics - 04-07-2021 Since the discussion has started on this, these are some major threads of reference related to when war was declared and the aftermath:
Secondly, if we do end the war, given that we are implying by that act that no hostilities exist between our two regions, the establishment of diplomatic relations is in order even if we do not establish embassies. Lastly, if we decide to end the proscription, it is reasonable to assume that Aleisyr, Pergamon, Svezjacael, Stujenske, and Feux, will likely be barred from the region by CLS vote*, though other NPO citizens can be accepted/rejected on a case by basis via normal citizenship procedures. *The option for the CLS to revisit this would still exist, though probably best to be safe for now and discuss status of difficult nations later. RE: [Discussion] End the War with the NPO - Leonism - 04-07-2021 I've been in this region for over three years now, ever since I refounded my nation. I've been involved into the government in some form or other for about two years, with the last year spent as a member of the CLS. Before that, I also served in the Regional Guard and took part in minor fighting, mostly in the Warzones. This latter activity was the only in which I was ever personally involved in the war against the NPO, as the events that led to it predate my residency in Lazarus. While I think that the NPO always played a usable role as our "greater scope villain" during my time in Lazarus, I do also think that continuing this war is pointless. What are our war goals? Every player of strategy games is used to asking themselves this question, and I can find no answer to this anymore regarding our war with the NPO. We do not seem to take part in any inter-regional efforts to actually seriously fight the NPO (and, to my knowledge, such concerted efforts do not actually exist anymore), so all we have left is a "Cold War" in which nothing actually happens. The NPO seems to have set their sights to other targets, if at all. I have no special sympathies for the NPO whatsoever, but I don't see any benefit in continuing the war. So ultimately, yes, I too am in favour of ending this war. It was right to start it back when we did, and it is right to end it now, given the completely different "political" landscape of 2021. RE: [Discussion] End the War with the NPO - joWhatup - 04-07-2021 I’m mostly neutral towards either continuing or ceasing the war. As it stands, there don’t seem to be many benefits to continuing the war, nor do there seem to be notable drawbacks to doing so. I don’t believe the NPO poses a threat to us in its current form - if we do make peace, we might as well open diplomatic relations with them. The only thing I’m hesitant about is on the timing - giving up at a random date seems less than entirely productive, especially since it has been years since anything happened. It might possibly be best if this was tied in to something (a possible apology from the NPO, or certain assurances, etc.) RE: [Discussion] End the War with the NPO - McChimp - 04-07-2021 joWhatup;11658 Wrote:The only thing I’m hesitant about is on the timing - giving up at a random date seems less than entirely productive, especially since it has been years since anything happened. It might possibly be best if this was tied in to something (a possible apology from the NPO, or certain assurances, etc.) I share this sentiment and remain in favour of waiting for another delegate change in The Pacific; their current Delegate was an endorsee of the NLO. RE: [Discussion] End the War with the NPO - Leonism - 04-07-2021 Well, there is certainly no urgency for action, so the arguments brought forth by McChimp and joWhatup have some merit. RE: [Discussion] End the War with the NPO - whatermelons - 04-13-2021 If anyone else shares the same views expressed by jo, McChimp, and Leonism, I wouldn't motion this to vote so soon RE: [Discussion] End the War with the NPO - Frankender - 04-13-2021 whatermelons;11707 Wrote:If anyone else shares the same views expressed by jo, McChimp, and Leonism, I wouldn't motion this to vote so soon Yeah, while I'm not well versed on the specifics of the war, from what they stated, I am also against ending the war at this point in time. RE: [Discussion] End the War with the NPO - New Rogernomics - 04-14-2021 whatermelons;11707 Wrote:If anyone else shares the same views expressed by jo, McChimp, and Leonism, I wouldn't motion this to vote so soon Well, as others have stated, there is no rush on holding a vote on the war and we can take our time. |