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[Proposal] Reduction in punishment (September 2020) - Domais - 09-03-2020
Quote:Reduction in punishment (September 2020)
Proposed by @DomaisPreamble
On June 11th, 2020, Vedan was found guilty of Conspiracy to Commit Misconduct; he was sentenced on June 14th, 2020. The Assembly of Lazarus, having found this sentence absurd, hereby enacts this Reduction of Sentence.
Section 1. Reduction of Sentence
(1) Vedan's sentence currently reads:
[table][cell]Vedan is to be banned from membership of the Regional Guard for 18 months, banned from holding public office for 8 months and shall have their voting rights suspended for 2 months. They may apply to have their Regional Guard ban commuted after 12 months and their ban from public office commuted after 6 months.[/cell][/table]
(2) A Reduced Sentence shall read:
[table][cell]Vedan is to be banned from membership of the Regional Guard for 6 months.[/cell][/table]
RE: Proposal] Reduction in punishment (September 2020) - vedan - 09-03-2020
Aye
RE: [Proposal] Reduction in punishment (September 2020) - Domais - 09-03-2020
Not a vote yet.
RE: [Proposal] Reduction in punishment (September 2020) - McChimp - 09-03-2020
No more sensible a proposal now than it was last time.
RE: [Proposal] Reduction in punishment (September 2020) - Frankender - 09-03-2020
Can you rename the legislation to specifically mention Vedan?
Regardless, I don't see any argument FOR this proposal. Any explanation?
RE: [Proposal] Reduction in punishment (September 2020) - Domais - 09-03-2020
Let me just sum up our arguements from last time (https://www.nslazarus.com/thread-1522.html) as this is the same proposal that was voted down last time by one vote, just with the dates changed.
1. (Banned from the guard) Why ban an eager member of the Guard for such a long time? Even if he wasn't an eager member, 18 months is just too long.
2. (Ban on public office) Why? This is totally unrelated, I know he was privately appointed director of the guard but that wasn't official. I feel like that is blow out of proportions.
3. (Voting rights suspended) Why? Again, unrelated.
4. (Commuting a part of a sentence) This is dumb, and may I ask apply to whom? The courts or the Delegate? Can we just settle on a time frame and not having this "commutation".
5. This was way to harsh and a bouch of it was completely unrelated
6. This discourages further interregional military activity.
RE: [Proposal] Reduction in punishment (September 2020) - Frankender - 09-03-2020
Frankender;10554 Wrote:Can you rename the legislation to specifically mention Vedan?
Can you fix this issue before continuing discussion on the proposal?
I do think, though, that I agree with you generally on this proposal. I do thing the sentencing was a bit "cruel and unusual" for the crime committed.
Can we get Vedan to admit guilt and apologize for his crimes? I would suggest communing his sentence all together if he did that.
RE: [Proposal] Reduction in punishment (September 2020) - Domais - 09-03-2020
It's not an issue. This is the same title as last time but with the change of dates.
RE: [Proposal] Reduction in punishment (September 2020) - Frankender - 09-03-2020
If that is the case, I oppose this legislation.
I've also asked questions regarding this proposal that haven't been answered and with that I also oppose this legislation.
RE: [Proposal] Reduction in punishment (September 2020) - Domais - 09-03-2020
Dude, if I put "Reduction in Vedan's punishment (September 2020)" it's kinda long and that's why Vedan is mentioned in text. As for him apologizing, I don't get why you're being hostile to me when I'm not Vedan. If you want someone to apologize ask them.