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Permanent Unalignment - Ryccia - 07-08-2020
For the Charter of the Guard:
Quote:(1) The Lazarene Regional Guard will be the sole military force of Lazarus, neutral in alignment. The alignment of the Lazarene Regional Guard cannot be altered without a total and unanimous vote by the Assembly. This sub-section of this document cannot be amended without a total and unanimous vote by the Assembly. Such a total and unanimous vote requires unanimous consent from the Assembly. Abstaining votes in such a total and unanimous vote to amend this sub-section shall be counted as "Nay". No other sub-section or section in this document can contradict this one.
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(3) The Regional Guard may only engage in the following types of operations:
a. Defense of Lazarus;
b. Defense of Lazarus' treaty allies, if mandated by treaty terms;
c. Invasion of regions upon which Lazarus has declared war, and defense of other regions against their military forces;
d. Defense of other Feeders and Sinkers at the request of their legitimate governments;
e. Assistance in other regions' legal Delegate transitions at the request of their legitimate governments;
f. Offensive or defensive training operations in game-created Warzone regions;
g. Invasion of fascist regions and defense of regions against fascist military forces;
h. Invasion of regions which pose a substantial threat to the out-of-character security or safety of NationStates players, and defense of regions against forces which pose such a threat.
(4) The Assembly may enact a resolution empowering the Regional Guard to invade a region that is the ally or protectorate of a region upon which Lazarus has declared war. Such a resolution may be approved or rescinded by two-thirds vote of the Assembly.
For the Twelfth Mandate:
Quote:...
X. Regarding the Region's Military Alignment
(1) Lazarus shall have no official military alignment or ideology of any kind, and thus shall remain neutral. The alignment of the Lazarene Regional Guard or of Lazarus proper cannot be altered without a total and unanimous vote by the Assembly. This sub-section of this document cannot be amended without a total and unanimous vote by the Assembly. Such a total and unanimous vote requires unanimous consent from the Assembly. Abstaining votes in such a total and unanimous vote to amend this sub-section shall be counted as "Nay". No other sub-section or section in this document can contradict this one.
This is an idea to be debated. I see Permanent Neutrality as a way to keep the military and the region safe from the chaos and discord caused by prior conflicts over R/D whilst giving the Guard the ability to do as it wishes.
RE: Permanent Unalignment - Domais - 07-08-2020
No support from me.
RE: Permanent Unalignment - Demonos - 07-08-2020
The Principality of Demonos is completely AGAINST this proposal.
RE: Permanent Unalignment - Debussy - 07-08-2020
I do not support this.
RE: Permanent Unalignment - Wymondham - 07-11-2020
Completely opposed
RE: Permanent Unalignment - joWhatup - 07-12-2020
May I ask for a reasoning for the vote against? Saying "opposed" is hardly constructive criticism. It's fine to be opposed to the idea entirely, of course, but a reasoning would perhaps be appreciated.
I'm neither supportive or opposed for the moment. I wholeheartedly support the idea of being able to do what we think is in our best interests, though.
RE: Permanent Unalignment - Debussy - 07-12-2020
Quote:...total and unanimous vote by the Assembly...
I am against the idea and this is crazy.
RE: Permanent Unalignment - McChimp - 07-12-2020
The proposal is unconstitutional; by dictating the majority by which it may be amended, it contradicts the mandate.
In addition to this, the proposal exchanges de facto neutrality for de jure neutrality. A law saying that the region is unaligned is no use if it offers no practical means to enforce that. As has been discussed before, the only such way to enforce neutrality is the measure that the amendment strikes out.
RE: Permanent Unalignment - Domais - 07-13-2020
It's dumb. Amendments that include things that will change voting thresholds to a unanimous vote should require a unanimous vote. And that's clearly not going to happen, that's just one reason I'm opposed.
RE: Permanent Unalignment - Frankender - 09-02-2020
I motion to table this legislation due to inactivity.