Wycliffe;5420 Wrote:The more I think about it, the more I'm coming around the idea that we might not want to have an official theme. Placing ourselves in a certain theme is bound to always be unsatisfactory to a solid chunk of the population- most people don't like LazCorp, and of them, they're all divided on what they want to replace it. I think in the long run, we may find more potential to develop our own, unique identity without shoehorning ourselves into a particular set of titles and culture that we may soon grow tired of- as with what happened to the HRL, the CU, the Realms, etc.

I would support legislation to give our titles respectable, but thematically neutral names. Things like legislature/congress, Delegate/Queen/Lord/Lady, High Court, etc. My first thought is that LazCorp should go. And as much as I dig the ancient Greek idea, and I do think we can make that work, I'm inclined to believe we'll end up better off in the long run if we develop it without an official rule enforcing it.

New Rogernomics;5465 Wrote:

Arlo;5464 Wrote:At the end of the day I don't really care what the theme is. Lazcorp is fun, though it feels to me like it works better as a meme and informal theme than an actual regional identity.

I generally think Lazarus has historically approached theming wrong. Stop trying to impose a strict theme from the top down where everything is already decided -- and let one evolve on its own from interactions within the community. Other regions have very loose theming -- while Laz tends to take it a bit too far.

Just my cents.

Theming is only an issue when it changes the government functions, and all the themes thus far have just changed the titles. LazCorp is only corporate imagery and a little bit of roleplay if people want to, which is why Lazarus can afford to be apathetic on LazCorp. 

Arlo;5473 Wrote:

New Rogernomics;5465 Wrote:

Arlo;5464 Wrote:At the end of the day I don't really care what the theme is. Lazcorp is fun, though it feels to me like it works better as a meme and informal theme than an actual regional identity.

I generally think Lazarus has historically approached theming wrong. Stop trying to impose a strict theme from the top down where everything is already decided -- and let one evolve on its own from interactions within the community. Other regions have very loose theming -- while Laz tends to take it a bit too far.

Just my cents.

Theming is only an issue when it changes the government functions, and all the themes thus far have just changed the titles. LazCorp is only corporate imagery and a little bit of roleplay if people want to, which is why Lazarus can afford to be apathetic on LazCorp.  

Not sure I can agree with that. Theming isn't just a legal issue -- it's part of our regional identity, and it has strong potential for both spurring and stifling activity.

What I'm trying to say is -- to me anyway, it has always looked like Lazarus has been trying to adapt itself to a theme, rather than the other way around. I hope that makes some sense. 

• The Celestial Union took inspiration from Unknown, and various religious regions including the Ascendancy.
  
• The Humane Republic was an earnest attempt to adopt a pre-PRL theme, which also went in sort of the Chinese direction near the end.
  
• The People's Republic made Lazarus into a communist ideological style, which is pretty much in quite a few UCRs these days. 
  
• 10k islands, which has regional houses, and a sort of political oligarchy built around them.
  
• Osiris, which has a Egyptian theme.
  
• Balder, which has a Nordic theme. 
  

• The New Revolution, which basically built a region around a post-revolutionary French Republic style.
  

Aumelodia;5383 Wrote:Well it looks like there’s a substantial amount of support for LazCorp. That’s good, because it means no hassle, as long as people are actually determined to keep it going ideally permanently. I have no problem with LazCorp if people are dedicated to it. 

Constie;5360 Wrote:I’m really not a fan of an Ancient Greek theme. It feels like an ancient theme just because Osiris and Balder have one.

Which is.... because they’re well-liked and they stick around? When the other two regions of our type have themes with the exact same patently good attributes, it makes sense to model ours after them, no?

Legalist Zombal;5363 Wrote:I think we could think about changing corporate to something like Laz'R'Us yeah  

I would also support making the theme the official theme in some capacity, such as having the titles move over to the mandate instead of a bill where they are just alternate titles. Making it the official theme not just a "Can be used" thing... but I am also ok with what we have here staying. I don't see a need to change it honestly.

No no no no no no no no no... {no’s continue on to infinity}

Incorporating the the theme into the constitution was one of the major weak points that led to the downfall of the CU. Would not recommend.  

New Rogernomics;5474 Wrote:What I am trying to say is that right now Lazarus has no real theme, and more just corporate titles that have renamed generic titles like Delegate and Minister.