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RE: [DISCUSSION] Regarding The Pacific - joWhatup - 11-25-2018
We were wronged here. Seeing the past history the NPO and Lazarus have, this is not new. In my opinion, we should present a diplomatic response and clear terms. We shouldn't back down in any way. If they fail to these demands, there should be consequences. In my opinion, Osiris' statement is a good example: make clear what we want, make clear what happened and make clear what the consequences are if these demands are not met. We should decide what our demands are, and take the time to write our statement. This is not a light decision, and should be well thought out. Secondly we will need to decide what the consequences will be if the demands are not met. War might be inevitable.
RE: [DISCUSSION] Regarding The Pacific - DaddyStalin - 11-25-2018
I do agree that a diplomatic statement should be lodged first before considering war. However, I do believe things should be conducted in quick fashion. Rather than responding to Osiris' demands, the NPO merely made a war rally dispatch urging their members to gain WA status and endorse Aleisyr. They are clearly not going to accept any terms.
It would be foolish to assume that war can be avoided as they clearly are preparing for it. Do exactly what NR said and use the diplomatic protest as a means to provide more time in organizing a united front between regions opposing the NPO before declaring war. This should be done with the utmost urgency.
RE: [DISCUSSION] Regarding The Pacific - Arlo - 11-26-2018
At the very least, I do find it kinda odd that we maintain embassies with regions that have wronged us.
RE: [DISCUSSION] Regarding The Pacific - McChimp - 11-26-2018
I do not believe that yesterday's change in NPO personnel is enough. From what I hear similar tokens of placation have been offered in the past and not led to lasting, meaningful change.
The NPO ought to present some kind of mechanical proof that their extreme regionalism has abated. Perhaps we could demand that they and their remaining allies withdraw from St Abbaddon. If they cannot offer real, tangible assurances such as that I think that war is not only reasonable but necessary in order to stabilise Lazarus. This would align us with the other sinkers, our natural allies. Whatever diplomatic statement we do make ought to be made soon before they can confuse the narrative any further.
The NPO trod on us for their own gain and the idea that we could be friendly with them any time soon is absurd.
RE: [DISCUSSION] Regarding The Pacific - The Pharcyde - 05-20-2019
We are currently opening embassies with Europe. Why are we doing this? Their founder is very pro NPO.
https://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?p=34963963#p34963963