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RE: [Proposal] A motion to reduce Vedan's punishment - McChimp - 06-16-2020

Killer Kitty;9847 Wrote:A 18 month ban from the Guard? A random out of place 2 month ban from voting and a 12 month ban from office that doesn't even make any sense in context?

How is that lenient? That's the type of punishment we'd hand out for lesser types of treason.

No, this punishment was very much not lenient, especially on something that was the first violation of this type in LazCorp history and very much murky legal territory before the conclusion of this trial. It's extremely discouraging to Regional Guard members and sends the very clear message "you make an honest mistake, you're going to get punished so hard you'll literally regret ever joining the Guard at all." I don't think we want to be saying that to our Guard members. We generally want more of them, not less.

The punishment was excessive and doesn't fit the crime. The voting and public office restriction is especially baffling and nonsensical. This sort of over the top, draconian Book Throwing will hurt Guard morale and recruitment by letting them know that we don't have their backs, and we will destroy them if they ever make an honest mistake.

Vedan didn't "make an honest mistake". He attempted to violate laws that he had discussed in detail just a few hours before. There was nothing murky about the illegality of what he did: breaking the law or attempting to break the law is bad. It's not rocket science.
He's not being punished for making a mistake, he's being punished for deliberately attempting to violate laws he understood and chose to ignore. That is something that needs to be deterred and is why he must recieve more than the slap on the wrist Domais prefers.


RE: [Proposal] A motion to reduce Vedan's punishment - Domais - 06-19-2020

Seeing that it has been 3 days and seeing no further discussion, I motion this to vote.


RE: [Proposal] Reduction in punishment (June 2020) - Killer Kitty - 06-19-2020

I second the motion.