Amerion Citizen Verified Became a Citizen Citizen 6 Months Citizen 12 Months Joined Jun 13, 2018 Messages 626 Feather ƒ4,126 Nation Lazarene Amerion Sep 30, 2018 #1 I was perusing the Mandate, as you do, and I noticed something which confused me. Section IV states: [cell] (4) Cabinet Ministers will serve until resignation, removal from office by the Assembly or the Delegate, or automatic removal from office. [/cell] What do you think 'or the Delegate' means in this context?
I was perusing the Mandate, as you do, and I noticed something which confused me. Section IV states: [cell] (4) Cabinet Ministers will serve until resignation, removal from office by the Assembly or the Delegate, or automatic removal from office. [/cell] What do you think 'or the Delegate' means in this context?
Legalist Zombal Verified Joined Jun 28, 2018 Messages 116 Feather ƒ1,283 Nation Marthizer Sep 30, 2018 #2 Pretty simple in my opinion, the delegate may remove Ministers at will. The assembly may also vote to remove ministers(so the citizens can) or the minister can simply resign. Makes sense so that the Delegate can remove a minister for not doing their job or for doing it badly and replace them instead of going through all the voting out or convincing them to resign.
Pretty simple in my opinion, the delegate may remove Ministers at will. The assembly may also vote to remove ministers(so the citizens can) or the minister can simply resign. Makes sense so that the Delegate can remove a minister for not doing their job or for doing it badly and replace them instead of going through all the voting out or convincing them to resign.
TempestShadow Verified Joined Jul 16, 2018 Messages 295 Feather ƒ1,514 Nation TempestShadow Sep 30, 2018 #3 I'd agree with the above, sounds like Del has unilateral ability to remove Ministers
Cormac Verified Joined Jul 11, 2018 Messages 203 Feather ƒ1,688 Nation Lazmac Region Lazarus Sep 30, 2018 #4 As the person who wrote that provision, I can confirm it was intended to mean the Delegate can dismiss Ministers at will. Incidentally, the Delegate also has the power to dismiss the Vice Delegate and the Assembly Speaker at will. The Delegate does not have the power to dismiss Justices of the Court or Councillors of Lazarene Security. All officials other than the Delegate and Vice Delegate can also be recalled by 2/3 vote of the Assembly. The Delegate and Vice Delegate can be recalled by 3/4 vote of the Assembly. Recalls don't require the Delegate's assent.
As the person who wrote that provision, I can confirm it was intended to mean the Delegate can dismiss Ministers at will. Incidentally, the Delegate also has the power to dismiss the Vice Delegate and the Assembly Speaker at will. The Delegate does not have the power to dismiss Justices of the Court or Councillors of Lazarene Security. All officials other than the Delegate and Vice Delegate can also be recalled by 2/3 vote of the Assembly. The Delegate and Vice Delegate can be recalled by 3/4 vote of the Assembly. Recalls don't require the Delegate's assent.
Legalist Zombal Verified Joined Jun 28, 2018 Messages 116 Feather ƒ1,283 Nation Marthizer Sep 30, 2018 #5 Good to know about the assent part, It makes more sense this way but I have seen places count recall as a bill almost and it doesn't end the best. Y'all did an awesome job on the mandate.
Good to know about the assent part, It makes more sense this way but I have seen places count recall as a bill almost and it doesn't end the best. Y'all did an awesome job on the mandate.
Amerion Citizen Verified Became a Citizen Citizen 6 Months Citizen 12 Months Joined Jun 13, 2018 Messages 626 Feather ƒ4,126 Nation Lazarene Amerion Oct 1, 2018 #6 Thanks for the clarification