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The Fifth Dimension: P2TM [Overview]; 16 Dec 9-11PM EST [Lecture Panel]
Topic Started: Thu Dec 14, 2017 6:58 am (102 Views)
Swith
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NSWF LECTURE/PANEL

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Madhouse Productions is proud to sponsor "The Fifth Dimension: P2TM"
Topic: Overview of P2TM and its culture
Format: Q&A
Date: Saturday, 16 Dec 2017
Time: 9-10PM EST (0200-0300 GMT).
Panelists: P2TM roleplayers and Roleplay Mentors.

Overview

[Originally published in the P2TM Welcome thread 11 May 2016.
Reprinted with kind permission here. Minor edits for NSWF publication by [nation]Swith Witherward[/nation], Senior P2TM RP Mentor.
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WHAT IS A ROLEPLAYING GAME?
A role-playing game (RPG and sometimes roleplaying game) is a game in which players assume the roles of characters in a fictional setting. Players take responsibility for acting out these roles within a narrative, either through literal acting or through a process of structured decision-making or character development. Actions taken within many games succeed or fail according to a formal system of rules and guidelines. A role-playing game system is a set of game mechanics used in a role-playing game (RPG) to determine the outcome of a character's in-game actions. (Wikipedia)

NationStates utlizes a play-by-post (PBP) role-playing game (sim) style. This is an online text-based role-playing game in which players interact with each other and a predefined environment via text. It is a subset of the online role-playing community which caters to both gamers and creative writers. Play-by-post games may be based on other role-playing games, non-game fiction including books, television and movies, or original settings. This activity is closely related to both interactive fiction and collaborative writing.


WHAT IS P2TM?
We are a growing community of role players who enjoy bringing our own worlds to life or else playing in others. We are not, however, a place for chat-location or chill threads, word games, "in the above nation" games, or games with "sequential responses to things that others have posted with no real rhyme or reason - in other words, spam."1 These still belong in Forum 7.

P2TM is a very open and tolerant community however it is a dedicated Roleplayer community as well, and it follows rules and guidelines laid down by site administration and moderation in the One Stop Rules Shop, and falls back on common practices found on most roleplay game forums.

Roleplaying threads operate in much the same way here as they do in International Incidents and NationStates. Where Portal To The Multiverse (P2TM) Roleplay differentiates itself is that these threads do not directly involve your nation. RPs in P2TM tend to move beyond the game of NationStates and back into the real world, or shoot further into the realms of fantasy. Common themes include alternate history, various war reenactments and spin offs, franchise based RPs (such as Harry Potter, Star Wars, etc.), fantasy and sci-fi, and Zombies, just to name a few. In truth, your imagination is the limit.2


RULES
The OSRS must be followed when posting in P2TM. A breakdown of them can be found in the official Welcome thread. These rules cover PG-13 and Privacy, mature content, keeping it civil, plagiarism, thread ownership, spam (including tagging and superfluous threads), gravedigging, and image spam.


COMMUNITY CULTURE AND SOME COMMON PRACTICES
Let's be clear here: these are not RULES. These are standards or practices you will encounter in P2TM. The community, as mentioned above, operates like many roleplaying forums found on the net. If you are not familiar with these things, or if your only RP experience has been on NS in the II subforum, some of this might seem very foreign. Don't fret. You'll get the hang of it soon enough, and our denizens and Mentors are always willing to help you settle in.

  • The OP and their CoOP
    In P2TM, "OP" stands for "Original Poster". They are usually a game's GM, and "own" the thread which they create. "CoOP" is slang for the OP's assistant, though it can also be viewed as "co-author" or "co-producer" depending upon how a thread is set up. We have a guide to help OP and CoOPs gain a better understanding of the responsibilities involved in running a thread.

    Most OP will choose a CoOP they have used before, or else will choose a friend to be their CoOP. There's nothing wrong with this practice. What the community does not tolerate well is a sense of entitlement, whereby a person believes they should be chosen as a CoOP solely based upon their post count or length of time on NS.

  • OOC and IC threads
    Threads tend to be divided into the categories of “out of character” interest threads and sign-ups, and “in character” story threads. The difference is easy to tell. Just like on NS or II, “out of character” threads will generally be denoted with the (OOC) tags in the title, with “in character” threads will sport the (IC) tags. Remember that thread ownership does apply to roleplays, and that, if the original poster (OP) asks you to stop posting in his/her thread, it's advisable (read: mandatory) that you heed that request, regardless of the reason, or lack thereof, and quietly leave, dignity intact. The only thing worse than a dingbat domineering a thread is two dingbats fighting in a thread.2 Basically, players refusing to adhere to OP request to leave the thread may result in a Moderator coming in and re-iterating said order in a far more stern and thread-disrupting fashion.

    Your OOC and IC threads should have some organization to them to help players participate. Some things found in an OOC are the game's premise, rules, character applications, setting descriptions, a character roster and so on. Plays have come to expect some of these things, and tend to select games with nicely defined OOCs. You are not required to have both an OOC and IC thread for your game. However, you should make some effort to keep OOC and IC posts distinct in your IC thread.

    Some of the best advice regarding OOC thread and game pitches comes from an old post buried in time. "Outline your idea in an OOC thread and what you expect from payers joining, and see if anyone is interested. Please refrain from unwarranted or repeated “bumping” of posts, it looks tackier than an emo Hallmark card. Trust me when I say, if people are attracted to the idea, they’ll post. If your idea flops, don’t be discouraged! Not every idea is a winner, but, in general, the P2TM RPing crowd is diverse enough that nearly any idea will find a fan or two. And, hey, maybe it just wasn't the right time for your Magnum Opus. Let is simmer, let it grow, bring some friends along, and try again in a few months. It might be better for it!

    If you want to share your ideas and need some help to nurture it into a solid Roleplay, check out The Traveller's Café. You're also allowed to advertise your RP's there.2


  • Goals
    P2TM games are often set up with goals in mind. These goals are often what divide a P2TM game from an F7 game. Goals are the purpose for the thread.

    If the goal is to play a mechanics RP game whereby each week the OP posts an advance to the story and the players all have a week to respond for their character/faction, the goal matches P2TM's community conventions. If the goal is to play a story telling RP game (98% of P2TM RP is this), the goal matches P2TM's community conventions. Games can be "light" or "heavy" but they should have a goal, which is met through objectives, which are manifest as the plot unfolds.


  • Post Content
    Lines. Always check with your OP/GM to see what they require. Some want a three-line minimum for IC posts. Others are fine with one-liner posts. As Trans put it, "Remember, roleplaying is about telling a story, not idly chatting with friends". Threads that involve only idle banter amongst the players may be subject to closure based upon Moderator ruling.2

    Asterisk play in IC. Asterisk actions are not an accepted convention in publishing. Sorry. There is absolutely no point in using them -- quotation marks are the punctuation tool used to separate dialogue from other action. There would be no meaningful difference between: "Dammit!" Tom took a sip of beer. and Dammit. * Tom took a sip of beer *. One is proper grammar in the English language, and one is not.

    Asterisk play is acceptable in IRC chats, and on 4Chan. It's fine in an OOC thread. If you want to be taken seriously as a gamer, please do not do this IC. There is no OSRS rule against it here. It's a matter of proper RPing Etiquette. Please respect that.

    Colored or specially formatted fonts to denote the speaker. Some players choose to differentiate between their characters by using different colors rather than a simple "he said". Players using a dark setting sometimes select colors that don't display well on a light setting. At times, the colors chosen are garish. Colored dialog font is mainly utilized in Chat Location, Chill or Blitz threads. PRO TIP: Telepathy is frequently denoted by italics. [example: "What do you mean?" she conveyed to his mind.]

    Spacing. Please try to not make "text walls". A good trick to use is to add a space between paragraphs. Treat character dialog in the same fashion, inserting spaces between each character's lines. Many OP expect players to do this, so you don't often see it in the OP's rules list, or else its covered under "good grammar and punctuation".

  • Multiple OOC and IC threads pertaining to the same singular franchise. You really don't need an OOC thread for maps, plus one for character sheet storage, plus one for chat, plus one for actual game discussion. You can usually consolidate all those things into one OOC thread via multiple posts made by the OP. It's possible to have multiple IC threads however you don't want them to get too invasive.



TYPES OF THREADS FOUND IN P2TM
RP Games
  • Storytelling Narrative. Examples include AD&D, Cyberpunk, X-Men, SCP, Middle Earth, Alt History, or player created worlds.
  • Strategy and mechanics-based Narratives. These range depending upon rules systems, and sometimes bleed into storytelling. Examples might include: faction-based RPs, Civil War reenactments, 40K battles and so on. These are usually played in rounds, and the GM might opt to roll dice or assign modifiers. In some forms. the GM posts and players then write up a description of their faction/character's reaction.
Other Kinds of Allowed Threads
  • Official chat thread (OOC at all times). There can be only one. It is Mod Sanctioned. It can be found here. Please do NOT make your own chat thread.
  • An official Discussion/Brainstorming/Advice thread (here)
  • Official Guides.
  • Organization threads. These vary depending on topic. We have Tolkien and Warhammer groups, writer's support groups, gamer support groups. Please do not allow your group's thread to turn into a generic chat.
  • Subforum Newspaper threads.




NOTES
1. "Spam" definition taken from Kyrusia's Mod ruling found here
2. Hitchhikers Guide to F7, Transnapastain, as archived here after P2TM was created.


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NSWF VI
LOCATION: Lecture Theatre
TOPIC: "The Fifth Dimension: P2TM”
TIME: 9PM Eastern 16 Dec/0300 GMT 17 Dec


Welcome to the P2TM Overview panel. Tonight’s panelists are P2TM RP Mentors and veteran Denizens. I am Swith Witherward (Swith), your panel moderator for this session. We have detailed info in the forum lecture hall (http://nslazarus.com/archive/NSWF6/topic/10372022/) if our audience would prefer cut-and-dry material.

Our topic is a basic overview of the history, culture, and antics of P2TM… what we do, what we’re about, and how people outside of our subforum can get involved. The audience will post questions in the Chamber and I’ll pose them to you for brief answers.

Panelists, good evening and thank you for participating. Please introduce yourselves.

Tilt - Today at 9:01 PM
Hello, am Tilt. I’ve been in P2TM since 2012, and lurk other subfora. When not on NS, I cleverly disguise as a coding penguin.

Esternial - Today at 9:02 PM
Hey all, I'm Esternial, a P2TM Mentor. I started off RP'ing in F7 before moving to P2TM when it was created. I'm a fan of FT and fantasy RPs, and I like long walks on the beach.

Monfrox - Today at 9:02 PM
Monfrox here, resident military enthusiast and bad decision expert. I've been around for close to seven years now.

Lykos - Today at 9:02 PM
I'm Lykos. I believe I've been on NS and P2TM since about 2012, really never went anywhere else. I'm part of Madhouse, too. I mostly like fantasy, historical, and scifi. I'm known as a squirrel on the internet too.

The Knockout Gun Gals
- Today at 9:03 PM
Hello, am Knockout Gun Gals, used to be known as Tito. I've been in P2TM ever since late 2012/early 2013, since I'm in II from 2012. When not in NS, I live realistically. Been in pretty much almost all RP groups that is available in P2TM.

Swith - Today at 9:03 PM
Two of our panelists, Agy and Cer, are running late.

Our first question is fairly generic: Where did P2TM come from?

Esternial
- Today at 9:04 PM
The name or the forum?
I'm guessing the forum, and if I recall properly, it was created because folks in F7 were asking for it for quite some time

Swith - Today at 9:04 PM
The forum and name.

Monfrox - Today at 9:05 PM
Someone forgot about Gio

Swith - Today at 9:05 PM
IIRC, a few of our sagest minds pestered until it happened. Wasn't Nightkill part of that, Esty?

Tilt - Today at 9:05 PM
I think Nightkill was part of it.
I don’t remember.

Giovenith - Today at 9:05 PM
I'm Giovenith, also been here since around 2012. I like writing even in non-RPs.

Q1: Back in the day, "big" RPs were reserved for RPs involving NS nations. Everything else was sent to F7, the spammy forum, where things are eventually deleted. Once it was seen that many of the RPs in F7 were more than just spam play though, a new forum was created specifically for non-nation RP.

The Knockout Gun Gals - Today at 9:06 PM
The history? Hm, not sure, I'm not that old yet in here to know about the history, but I remember P2TM being part of F7 before the mods decided to put it separately.

Monfrox - Today at 9:06 PM
Yeah, it's my understanding that P2TM was made to help separate the casualness of F7 and the people who wanted to really just work into things.
That's not to make a jab at F7 though(edited)

Esternial - Today at 9:06 PM
Aye, there was some overall annoyance that F7 RPs were kinda considered second-rate compared to II.

Swith - Today at 9:07 PM
Q2 by Todd McCloud "How does one define P2TM as far as tech level, and, if there are nations at multiple tech levels, how does one work to ensure the roleplay is both fair are consistent?"

Monfrox - Today at 9:07 PM
Oh boy

Esternial - Today at 9:07 PM
Well shortest answer is there is no tech level

The Knockout Gun Gals - Today at 9:07 PM
Tech level? Hmm...tech level aren't necessary a standard that is being used in P2TM. Multiple tech levels nations aren't usually used in P2TM since the use of such things happened in International Incidents.

Monfrox - Today at 9:07 PM
P2TM has a tech level?

Lykos - Today at 9:07 PM
Ususally, the OP/Gm determines tech level if there is one

Tilt - Today at 9:07 PM
Q2. Tech level I think is mainly a function of setting.

Lykos - Today at 9:07 PM
also what tilt said

Monfrox - Today at 9:07 PM
I think, hang on

The Knockout Gun Gals - Today at 9:07 PM
Q2 : Tech level? Hmm...tech level aren't necessary a standard that is being used in P2TM. Multiple tech levels nations aren't usually used in P2TM since the use of such things happened in International Incidents.

Monfrox - Today at 9:08 PM
P2TM doesn't work the same as II does

The Knockout Gun Gals - Today at 9:08 PM
Q3 by Todd McCloud : Second question: How much time / innovation would be required for a nation to move up in tech level? Too often RPers seem to leap like a heaviside function and move up and down techs rather quickly. If a nation RPer wanted to ascend into another RP level, what would be the best way to go about it?

Esternial - Today at 9:08 PM
In P2TM you generally don't set off with a "nation" to join RPs. For example, in P2TM-based nation RPs, you join RPs and then create a nation.

Swith - Today at 9:08 PM
P2TM has closed universe games, something that sets it apart from N&I. You join a Cyberpunk game, and its canon doesn't apply to someone else's Cyberpunk game, if that makes sense.

Tilt - Today at 9:08 PM
? Q3?

The Knockout Gun Gals - Today at 9:08 PM
I mean, time for innovations? It was usually pre-set up.

Monfrox - Today at 9:08 PM
Tito's jumping the gun(edited)

Giovenith - Today at 9:09 PM
Q3: P2TM doesn't really have an overall tech level, it depends on the RP and people. While technology can be important in P2TM, I don't think it's as important as it is in II — technology is a big part in crafting the face of a culture and government, but P2TM has less to do with those things and more to do with personable stories or playing preexisting franchises.

Monfrox - Today at 9:09 PM
Cool it down, man. Swith's running the show here.

Tilt - Today at 9:09 PM
What Gio said.

Monfrox - Today at 9:09 PM
Yeah, that's why it's called the "Multiverse"

Lykos - Today at 9:09 PM
some games do have tech as a function of mechanics, but they're close universe. what happens in one game doesn't translate to another

Monfrox - Today at 9:09 PM
Because not everything in it happens in the same kind of space

Esternial - Today at 9:09 PM
Overall I see the difference quite simple: in II you start off with a subject and join an RP. in P2TM you join an RP and create a subject to RP with
Uhh
subject being a nation or character

Swith - Today at 9:10 PM
Q4 by Vulturret What is the best way to get involved in P2TM?

Monfrox - Today at 9:10 PM
Really, just jump right in

Lykos - Today at 9:11 PM
Find a group or game that interests you and fill out an application, for slightly more detail

Monfrox - Today at 9:11 PM
Chances are highly likely, with all the things that happen in P2TM, that you'll find an RP that strikes your fancy

The Knockout Gun Gals - Today at 9:11 PM
Just find the right RP

Tilt - Today at 9:11 PM
Q4. Either jumping in is good, or assimilation by people already in it. Quo vadis?

The Knockout Gun Gals - Today at 9:11 PM
It takes time

Monfrox - Today at 9:11 PM
New RPs are always popping up in P2TM and they have a wide range. There's always something going on.

The Knockout Gun Gals - Today at 9:11 PM
It comes from personal experiences. And also try to follow the rules carefully. I got a lot of flak for parachuting to Manhattan in a vampire RP

Swith - Today at 9:11 PM
Joining a RP group is helpful, too.

Giovenith - Today at 9:12 PM
Q4: Kick shyness to the curb. It can be intimidating for a lot of people to jump into a setting that already has so much history and baggage, they may feel like they're intruding — don't. Find a game you like, put yourself out there, and stick to it. It's like riding a bike, it will feel slow, awkward, and hard at first, but once you get the hang of it it's second nature.(edited)

The Knockout Gun Gals - Today at 9:12 PM
Finding the right RP group is also a question.
How do we know this one's good?
How about that
How about this
Those questions are available

Esternial - Today at 9:12 PM
The most straightforward way to get involved in P2TM is to explore the forum and see which RP strikes your fancy. Sometimes you may not find an RP you're really into, but eventually you'll find something you're into and then all you have to do is post in the OOC thread and sign up.
Usually the threads advertise whether they're still open or not

Swith - Today at 9:13 PM
If all else fails, don't hesitate to contact a P2TM RP Mentor.

Esternial - Today at 9:13 PM
Often you can just jump into an RP when it's ongoing, and the OP can find a way to weave your character into the story.

Tilt - Today at 9:13 PM
I believe there has been active recruitment to P2TM from outside as well. Hence assimilation.

Swith - Today at 9:14 PM
There is a difference between N&I and P2TM, though. Look to see if the IC has an OOC thread (almost all do). You'll need to put in a character/faction/whatever application there, and be approved, before jumping into the IC thread.

Agy - Today at 9:15 PM
Heyo! I'm Agy, been a member of P2TM for I think... four years now? Sorry for dropping in late, just got home :stuck_out_tongue:

Esternial- Today at 9:15 PM
You usually get approved, as long as your character fits the universe the OP created
and doesn't go too overboard

The Knockout Gun Gals - Today at 9:16 PM
And experiences.

Lykos - Today at 9:16 PM
even if you aren't experienced you should be fine(edited)
some rps are there just for newbies anyway

Swith - Today at 9:16 PM
Q5: by Todd McCloud "Is it human-based, or friendly to non-human nations, characters?"

Monfrox - Today at 9:16 PM
P2TM is anything and everything

Esternial- Today at 9:16 PM
Oh totes malotes
You've got it all
I once RP'ed as a sentient pile of rocks
and a dragon

The Knockout Gun Gals - Today at 9:17 PM
It's not fine for newbies, sometimes. Some RP just not accepting newbies.

Agy - Today at 9:17 PM
Anything and everything, thus friendly to both human-based and non-human nations and characters.

Swith - Today at 9:17 PM
Keep in mind, P2TM isn't nation-based RP. You can play elements from your nation, or alt history of your nation, but most games are apart from the N&I forum.

Monfrox - Today at 9:17 PM
I tend to stick to what I know

Lykos - Today at 9:17 PM
I regularly roleplay as a time-displaced viking, and a magic fennec-fox/rat thing in the same game

Agy - Today at 9:17 PM
Yeah PL is an excellent example of that.

Lykos- Today at 9:17 PM
Personification Life, for non p2tm people

Swith - Today at 9:17 PM
We have a lot of nation and non-nation stuff in PL.

Esternial- Today at 9:17 PM
There are a lot of supernatural RPs out there, so in those settings non-human characters (or nations) are not really out of place

Tilt - Today at 9:17 PM
Q5. Few can pull dim rubber crab ovaries, I dull. In other words, you can really do just about anything; however, there are some limits set by some RPs which aren’t apparent in others. Again, it really depends on what works within a setting.

Agy - Today at 9:18 PM
As a point of clarification, Nation stuff is allowed in P2TM provided it's more background or non-NS related.

Giovenith - Today at 9:18 PM
Q5: It's friendly to everyone willing to put the time and effort into things. If you're not a good team player, the most superpowered badass in the world isn't going to get you more props.

Esternial- Today at 9:18 PM
I can image this isn't always the case in II
or maybe it is

Agy - Today at 9:18 PM
So for example, I can use my NS Nation as the backdrop for a P2TM RP, but I can't do a diplomatic RP in P2TM where my nation is front-and-center, if that makes sense.

Giovenith - Today at 9:18 PM
^

Lykos - Today at 9:18 PM
in a p2tm game the nation is the setting, not the player
usually
there's faction rps though, which is more like gameplay
but usually made up for the purpose of that particular game

Esternial - Today at 9:19 PM
Aye, we've got some great mechanics-based RPs in P2TM

Tilt - Today at 9:19 PM
I would disagree with that. Nation RPs revolving around a setting are for outside Fifth Dimension.

Esternial - Today at 9:20 PM
I'd also avoid using your NS Nation as a setting for your RP in P2TM, to be honest

Monfrox - Today at 9:20 PM
I think he meant backdrop as in setting

Esternial - Today at 9:20 PM
Aye

Monfrox - Today at 9:20 PM
Like it happens there and that's it

Esternial - Today at 9:20 PM
II is quite suitable for that

Agy - Today at 9:20 PM
To clarify, having a nation being the center of the RP's setting would not count as using it as a backdrop. I meant more that national settings could be visited as in Personification Life, but yes Tilt is correct.

Giovenith - Today at 9:20 PM
I think Agy's talking more like using the nation as a background device. Bob is from the Empire of Giovenith, but he's attending magic school in the RP's Fairyland.

Agy - Today at 9:20 PM
Yep.

Swith - Today at 9:20 PM
Q6: posed by Drac "How do you deal with trolls/assholes/etc in P2TM?"

Agy - Today at 9:20 PM
That as well.

Giovenith - Today at 9:20 PM
Q6: Same way as anywhere else: Report 'em.

Tilt - Today at 9:21 PM
Q6. Ignore them.

Esternial - Today at 9:21 PM
Aye

Agy - Today at 9:21 PM
Report to moderation? :P

In-general since OPs have thread control in P2TM you just need to report trolls to get them dealt with.

Lykos - Today at 9:21 PM
Good realationships moderation

Esternial - Today at 9:21 PM
All of the above

Monfrox - Today at 9:21 PM
It's all up to you but it's bascially just following rules

Swith - Today at 9:21 PM
Much like N&I, P2TM does fall back on "wall of silence". If you wouldn't let that person into your house, why let them into your game? Or react to their nonsense? They simply Cease to Be. We also have "thread ownership", which means the OP can ban any player for any reason at any time.

Agy - Today at 9:21 PM
Additionally P2TM does allow you to set thread rules, provided they aren't unreasonable, so you can use those to preemptively deal with trolls.

The Knockout Gun Gals - Today at 9:21 PM
Kill them.
Not literally.

Monfrox - Today at 9:22 PM
If you're an OP and you lay out your ground rules in the OP-NO
BAD

Lykos - Today at 9:22 PM
no that's illegal, tito

The Knockout Gun Gals - Today at 9:22 PM
Not literally.

Monfrox - Today at 9:22 PM
Anyway, as I was saying

Lykos - Today at 9:22 PM
Swith gets the jist

Agy - Today at 9:22 PM
Having posting requirements, for example, can deter people from troll-posting since their posts will get deleted and they'll catch a warning or a ban.

Esternial - Today at 9:22 PM
Well you can indeed kill their IC character

The Knockout Gun Gals - Today at 9:22 PM
Well, like that.

Esternial - Today at 9:22 PM
but that's liable to set them off

Lykos - Today at 9:22 PM
that isn't illegal, and yeah can set off firestorms

Giovenith - Today at 9:22 PM
Killing a character in IC out of revenge is considered poor taste by many.

Monfrox - Today at 9:22 PM
If you lay out your rules in your first post you cover yourself from that when you report it. If you aren't the OP, you can always ask them about it.
Gio is right

Agy - Today at 9:23 PM
Yeah killing a character in IC tends to cause more problems than it could ever resolve, recommend against.
If it's not for plot reasons, that is.

Rupudska - Today at 9:23 PM
hello every nyan, and sorry for not appearing earlier, but my computer is being a POS

Esternial - Today at 9:23 PM
Well I can imagine an OP could decide to kick a player from his/her RP and then kills their character to give them an IC exit

Giovenith - Today at 9:23 PM
It just makes people feel more personally attacked than necessary and is likely to start a grudge.

Swith - Today at 9:23 PM
P2TM has a low tolerance for poor behavior. lol What you see in Gameplay would never fly in P2TM. We're low-salt. :stuck_out_tongue:

Tilt - Today at 9:23 PM
I think ATHENA rules on killing player characters cover things well enough.

Rupudska - Today at 9:23 PM
anyway I'm neutral on killing characters, but tbh I've only had two RPs last that long V:
and both times I contacted them beforehand or planned a death, or just put them On A Bus, so to speak

Giovenith - Today at 9:24 PM
Not on killing characters alone, killing them as punishment for bad player behavior.

Esternial - Today at 9:24 PM
I prefer killing off my own to be honest

Rupudska - Today at 9:24 PM
oh

Lykos - Today at 9:24 PM
I prefer stabbing NPCs

Rupudska - Today at 9:24 PM
well I don't do that, period

Esternial - Today at 9:24 PM
I'm a sucker for punishment

Swith - Today at 9:24 PM
Q7: by Todd McCloud "what would a common P2TM roleplay look like?" The average game.

Rupudska - Today at 9:24 PM
I just use the three strike rule and boot 'em

The Knockout Gun Gals - Today at 9:24 PM
Killing characters for punishments sounds actually a good punishment right?
I'm suck at punishing people

Lykos - Today at 9:24 PM
average game is hard to define

Esternial - Today at 9:24 PM
Elfen High?
huehue

Rupudska - Today at 9:24 PM
Wasn't mine

The Knockout Gun Gals - Today at 9:24 PM
A common roleplay usually have rules, concept, and players

Agy - Today at 9:24 PM
Is Todd asking for examples or characteristics or...?

Monfrox - Today at 9:24 PM
Boooo

Rupudska - Today at 9:24 PM
and Elfen High is an anomaly

Agy - Today at 9:24 PM
Vague question, needs clarification

Monfrox - Today at 9:24 PM
Shameless self-advertising!(edited)

Lykos - Today at 9:24 PM
PL is anything but average.

in specific, I'd say like a tabletop roleplay game

Swith - Today at 9:24 PM
LOL Esty. That was above average and too awesome for NS.

Rupudska - Today at 9:25 PM
saying it 3 times is said to summon Nightkill, or a bowl of curry

Lykos - Today at 9:25 PM
ytou have player characters, and a person running the game

Todd McCloud - Today at 9:25 PM
((like settings, themes, characters, etc. Is it all original content, or does it relate to something off-site, etc?))

Tilt - Today at 9:25 PM
Q7. There seem to be a lot of sci-mil-fi games. Tito covered rules and setup.

Esternial - Today at 9:25 PM
To be honest Swith, the RP itself wasn't that special - the people participating in it were

Agy - Today at 9:25 PM
It's not necessarily tabletop though. I would liken it to a collaborative story, except that there are mechanics-heavy games.

Giovenith - Today at 9:25 PM
Q7: P2TM RPs are varied by nature, but in general, they often seem to have an outline of a central setting in which characters of distinct backgrounds (sometimes tempered by some sort of
theme) flock to in order to interact and accomplish a goal together.

Monfrox - Today at 9:25 PM
I'd say the average P2TM RP looks like a quirky kind of setting with a colorful cast

The Knockout Gun Gals - Today at 9:25 PM
Well, I wouldn't considered Elfen High as the best RP.

Agy - Today at 9:25 PM
Ah, in terms of what it relates to, the average P2TM RP involves a mixture of original and off-site content.

The Knockout Gun Gals - Today at 9:26 PM
Too many times considered it as great, and people will find it annoying.

Lykos - Today at 9:26 PM
and most games are in pre-made settings

Monfrox - Today at 9:26 PM
You come in, read the rules, fill out your app, and see where it takes you

Rupudska - Today at 9:26 PM
That's how it usually works

Tilt - Today at 9:26 PM
Most people base it on existing work. The most original things I’ve seen besides my own work, shameless plug, have been character concepts.

Agy - Today at 9:26 PM
A lot of people take existing settings - Marvel universe, famous anime, video game, etc - and run RPs in them.

Lykos - Today at 9:26 PM
like Fallout, or The Elder Scrolls

The Knockout Gun Gals - Today at 9:26 PM
Sometimes original concepts have more success

Rupudska - Today at 9:26 PM
Some take tweaks to it, though. Very rarely you'll see a fully original idea

Swith - Today at 9:26 PM
There are probably three types of "average" game. Mechanics based, which is turn-based and uses points etc... think Warhammer 40K tabletop. Storytelling, which is like D&D. And Sandbox, which is free-form and may or may not follow an overarching plot presented by the OP. A lot of storytelling RP use a sandbox approach.

Rupudska - Today at 9:26 PM
Depends on who's running them.

The Knockout Gun Gals - Today at 9:26 PM
Superhero but not Marvel, or DC, usually more successful

Esternial - Today at 9:26 PM
But yeah, P2TM can be really varied. Different settings, different way of operartion (sometimes it's free form, sometimes there's a plotline, sometimes there's a roster of quests)

The Knockout Gun Gals - Today at 9:26 PM
Simply because we design them from the beginning

Rupudska - Today at 9:26 PM
Mechanics RPs tend to do... poorly here. I personally blame phpBB's lack of dice mechanic

The Knockout Gun Gals - Today at 9:27 PM
While Marvel or DC gave us the pre-setup characters and setting and stories

Lykos - Today at 9:27 PM
mechanics can get unweildy and alienate plyers from the narrative flow

Agy - Today at 9:27 PM
Notably, G-Tech runs a lot of mechanical RPs. But yes they tend to do rather poorly compared with collaborative-storytelling or sandbox RPs.

Esternial - Today at 9:27 PM
Depends on the mechanics, but yeah

Rupudska - Today at 9:27 PM
especially if they're mechanics-heavy

Lykos - Today at 9:27 PM
but there's always players who will try to game mechanics
and find ways to never hit hardship.
or try to

Esternial - Today at 9:27 PM
I've given it a shot a few times

Swith - Today at 9:28 PM
Q8: By Dera "What do you guys personally think is the best RP you've seen in P2TM? And why?"(edited)

Monfrox - Today at 9:28 PM
Mmmmmm

Rupudska - Today at 9:28 PM
Mine, Strike Witches 2012. :^)

Monfrox - Today at 9:28 PM
Yep, there it is

The Knockout Gun Gals - Today at 9:28 PM
Peacekeepers.
And ATHENA

Giovenith - Today at 9:28 PM
Q7: In my extremely and unquestionably biased opinion, PL.

Agy - Today at 9:28 PM
Gonna abstain, because I haven't looked around the forum enough.

Rupudska - Today at 9:28 PM
lol no either Elfen High or Norv's reiver RP

Lykos - Today at 9:28 PM
No idea, though PL is special in my heart for being the one I stuck around in forever

Monfrox - Today at 9:28 PM
Honestly, I liked Grestin's Zone RP a lot

The Knockout Gun Gals - Today at 9:28 PM
Peacekeepers, ATHENA, and Excalibur.

Rupudska - Today at 9:28 PM
and PL is a mess tbh, which is why I've stayed out of it

Esternial - Today at 9:28 PM
Uhh there was one with a great setting, set in a Steampunk universe

Lykos - Today at 9:28 PM
every other one I've been in has died lol

Monfrox - Today at 9:28 PM
That and World on Fire

Esternial - Today at 9:28 PM
Steel and Spell?

Agy - Today at 9:28 PM
I would only be able to recommend RPs I myself have been in, and that's not exactly much of a recommendation.

The Knockout Gun Gals - Today at 9:29 PM
Steel and Spell is frankly awesome

Tilt - Today at 9:29 PM
Q8. Hmm. I think honestly it is a tossup between PL and Insaeldor’s noir RP that died early.

Esternial - Today at 9:29 PM
Yeah died too soon, though

Monfrox - Today at 9:29 PM
WoF has a lot of what I love

Rupudska - Today at 9:29 PM
I put in an anti-vote for World on Fire because Agri refuses to let it die peacfully or just reboot it, he is still convinced he can resurrect it as is

Lykos - Today at 9:29 PM
we can anti vote?

Esternial - Today at 9:29 PM
Honestly I don't have one favourite RP

Monfrox - Today at 9:29 PM
You mean I refused to let it die

Rupudska - Today at 9:29 PM
A World Beyond was also pretty good

Tilt - Today at 9:29 PM
I wasn’t too impressed by how ATHENA turned out in the latest version.

The Knockout Gun Gals - Today at 9:29 PM
WoF still needs some resurrections!

Swith - Today at 9:29 PM
Q8: How long have most of you been RPing?"

The Knockout Gun Gals - Today at 9:29 PM
ATHENA in the past was better, you meant?

Monfrox - Today at 9:29 PM
Ever since I first joined NS

Swith - Today at 9:29 PM
(Too long here)

Lykos - Today at 9:30 PM
eternity (since 2012, probably a bit earlier)

Tilt - Today at 9:30 PM
Q9. Five years.

Agy - Today at 9:30 PM
Oh damn, since middle-school (back when Gaia Online was my haunt), so that means... probably like 7 years now?

Esternial - Today at 9:30 PM
Uhhhh gimme a sec

Lykos - Today at 9:30 PM
my first rps were totally wiped out, because it was on a now defunct forum

The Knockout Gun Gals - Today at 9:30 PM
2012

Rupudska - Today at 9:30 PM
Like here or in general? Here since I got here more or less, so about seven years, in general... fuck, I think I started on Sonic Stadium which was at least ten years ago, probably closer to twelve

The Knockout Gun Gals - Today at 9:30 PM
So 5 years

Agy - Today at 9:30 PM
Well actually no more like 11 years. If I'm only accounting for NS then about 6

Esternial - Today at 9:30 PM
Started in 2010, on II

Giovenith - Today at 9:30 PM
Q9: About eleven years.

Esternial - Today at 9:31 PM
Remember starting off in this amazing FT RP and being an absolute noobie

Swith - Today at 9:32 PM
Q10: "Can/Do P2TM players play in II/NS?"

Rupudska - Today at 9:32 PM
Heck yeah we do

Esternial - Today at 9:32 PM
Yes

The Knockout Gun Gals - Today at 9:32 PM
Yes
Why is it even a question?

Rupudska - Today at 9:32 PM
I recently started two threads regarding that, one in NS and one in II

Agy - Today at 9:32 PM
Of course. Whether we choose to is another question but of course we are capable of it.

Monfrox - Today at 9:32 PM
I would love to get into II more

Esternial - Today at 9:32 PM
Might take some time to start off in II

Giovenith - Today at 9:32 PM
Q10: Of course they do. People are more than versatile. Some people use different nations for the different forums though, so you might not be able to tell that it's them.

Monfrox - Today at 9:33 PM
I may not be on for making whole national moves, but I have a lot of characters I created out of my nation that never really got to shine.

Esternial - Today at 9:33 PM
Personally I've spent more time working on my FT nation than actually RP'ing with it

Rupudska - Today at 9:33 PM
SAAAME lol

Monfrox - Today at 9:33 PM
II is honestly hard to get into though. Most of the RPs I see are all closed or invite only.

Lykos - Today at 9:33 PM
I stick to P2tm like a hermit because I have friends there :stuck_out_tongue:

Rupudska - Today at 9:33 PM
Both of mine are currently open, though my II RP needs some OPFORs since my side is a bit overloaded at the moment

Agy - Today at 9:33 PM
Likewise, what Lykos said. I'm not inclined to move necessarily.

Swith - Today at 9:33 PM
Q11: combined questions from earlier "What do you recommend to someone that is a noob RPer? Is P2TM friendly to noobs? Do you have to be a writer/novelist to RP in P2TM?"

Giovenith - Today at 9:34 PM
I personally don't go into a lot of II because it often feels like everyone wants to start a dispute there. When I imagine my nation, I think more about the restaurants, gardens, and other attractions, not economics or war.

Monfrox - Today at 9:34 PM
Rup, RP with me. I have fox girl squads.
P2TM is....

Esternial - Today at 9:34 PM
I'm far from a writer

Lykos - Today at 9:34 PM
p2tm is a mixed bag

Esternial - Today at 9:34 PM
so that answers that question

Monfrox - Today at 9:34 PM
Well it's like every other PR forum here

Lykos - Today at 9:34 PM
some are friendly, like PL, others are definitely not

Rupudska - Today at 9:34 PM
P2TM is generally friendly to newbs, but if you're a n00b you may end up getting booted. Just read the OP, read the rules, you'll do fine.
And don't type like a third grader.

Monfrox - Today at 9:34 PM
You have to really look and see what you're getting yourself into before you get into it.(edited)

Esternial - Today at 9:34 PM
In the end, P2TM is inhabited by people, and some are just not as open
and some are
some are patient
and some aren't

Agy - Today at 9:35 PM
Yeah I think it depends RP to RP. Some RPs in P2TM are juggernauts and expect great work out-of-theg-gate. Others are friendly to newcomers who haven't picked up all the tricks of the trade yet.

Mixed bag.

Tilt - Today at 9:35 PM
Q11. Generally, yes. Writers are welcome, but RP is a bit more than just writing because you have to mind what others contribute. It’s not a one-person show.

Cer - Today at 9:35 PM
Sorry for the delay. Traffic. I'm Cer, one of the P2TM RP Mentors. Thanks for inviting me.

Monfrox - Today at 9:35 PM
Be respctful, be polite, and don't act like you know everything

Tilt - Today at 9:35 PM
o/ Cer

Lykos - Today at 9:35 PM
he's also a honeybadger

Rupudska - Today at 9:35 PM
oh hay Cer

Lykos - Today at 9:35 PM
\o

Cer - Today at 9:35 PM
\o Tilt, all

Esternial - Today at 9:35 PM
Aye, attitude is important, on P2TM and anywhere else

Monfrox - Today at 9:35 PM
Ask questions, keep an open mind, and just be chill

Agy - Today at 9:35 PM
Evening, Cer.

Giovenith - Today at 9:35 PM
Q12: P2TM is probably the second most noob friendly, first being F7. You are likely to find a game there that is your speed, but there are others that might not accept you. It should be noted that P2TM isn't big on asterisk play or colored font type of writing though — you'll see it, but it's viewed as out of place, more of an F7 thing.

The Knockout Gun Gals - Today at 9:36 PM
P2TM is generally not that friendly with noobs

Rupudska - Today at 9:36 PM
P2TM is very n00b friendly, next is probably F&NI simply because they've grown patient to noobishness and there's not actually any RPing done there

Giovenith - Today at 9:36 PM
You don't have to be a novelist, but you will have to have some basic grammar and such if you want to work up a presence.

The Knockout Gun Gals - Today at 9:36 PM
You need to have belt of experiences before you will be accepted properly

Esternial - Today at 9:36 PM
lotta mixed signals here

Monfrox - Today at 9:36 PM
It's give and take

Tilt - Today at 9:36 PM
Also a willingness to learn.
And improve.

Monfrox - Today at 9:36 PM
You can do everything right and still not have fun

The Knockout Gun Gals - Today at 9:36 PM
We are like that elite fraternity where only the brightest can enter, but things get more open in the recent years

Monfrox - Today at 9:37 PM
But that's because the other person is probably an asshole
But don't let one thing get you down. Just live and learn and try again.

Rupudska - Today at 9:37 PM
You would think NS/II are very anti-n00b but they really aren't, it's just that if you're a n00b they'll only let you play with n00bs, like you're an untouchable ersumshit

Swith - Today at 9:37 PM
Tito, what you smoking over there? :P

Q 13: asked by Vulturret "What are the easiest games to join?"

Giovenith - Today at 9:37 PM
In a nutshell: We're open to newbs, but to newbs who came to learn and grow, not so much newbs who just want to dick around.

Esternial - Today at 9:37 PM
Don't be intimidated by what's being said here

Lykos - Today at 9:37 PM
easiest would be the concepts built on pre-existing genre you know

Esternial - Today at 9:37 PM
GAMES? These are pieces of ART

Rupudska - Today at 9:37 PM
Any superhero or slice-of-life RP

Lykos - Today at 9:37 PM
and anything less serious, not as mechanics based

Tilt - Today at 9:37 PM
Q13. Personification Life.

Rupudska - Today at 9:37 PM
Though really it depends solely on how simple the app is

Lykos - Today at 9:37 PM
generally character seems to be the simplest to play

Cer - Today at 9:38 PM
Ones that brand themselves as training RP :smile:

Monfrox - Today at 9:38 PM
Honestly? Try searching up stuff that you like. Halo? Zombies? Magical Girls? P2TM probably has it.

Agy - Today at 9:38 PM
I don't think there's a category per se... I think it depends on the rules that the OP has. If you read those and they seem to correspond to lax posting guidelines, probably easier to join.

Slice of life might be the closest to an "easy to join" category

The Knockout Gun Gals - Today at 9:38 PM
@Swith Oh, it's personal experience.

Esternial - Today at 9:38 PM
I find PL kinda difficult to join to be honest

Monfrox - Today at 9:38 PM
Get into something you already know you'll enjoy.

Esternial - Today at 9:38 PM
It's so...big

The Knockout Gun Gals - Today at 9:38 PM
I can talk all about the people who rejected me because of my marginally mediocre RPing skills in the past

Monfrox - Today at 9:38 PM
Whoa there

The Knockout Gun Gals - Today at 9:38 PM
Or because of my english

Monfrox - Today at 9:38 PM
PG-13 site

The Knockout Gun Gals - Today at 9:38 PM
But let's not do that here

Cer - Today at 9:38 PM
We ease you in now. But there are other RP in P2TM that allow people to learn as they go.

Lykos - Today at 9:39 PM
but you don't need to know everything to play in PL

Giovenith - Today at 9:39 PM
Q13: Pre-existing franchise or genre games. Most people start off writing for some piece of media they like and then take what they've learned to create original ideas. By joining something based on a media (Harry Potter, Star Wars, MLP, etc.) it comes pre-packaged with a basic lay-out you understand instead of having to read up on a new concept.

Lykos - Today at 9:39 PM
you learn as your character does

Swith - Today at 9:39 PM
I agree with Gio. It's so much easier for new RPers.

Esternial - Today at 9:39 PM
As a piece of advice: check out the OOC to get a feel for the other RP'ers, see if you'd fit in.

Lykos - Today at 9:40 PM
in inverse, I'd say the hardest to join is original content

Esternial - Today at 9:40 PM
Make sure there aren't any folks that might give you grief

Lykos - Today at 9:40 PM
you have to read up on much more to get a good enough sense to even apply.

Agy - Today at 9:40 PM
Yep, Esty's right. OOC's allow you to get the feel for whether you're going to like your fellow players, the setting, and how the OP manages the thread.

Rupudska - Today at 9:40 PM
depends on how good the OP is

Giovenith - Today at 9:40 PM
Indeed. The values of your fellow players often have a profound influence on your time in the game.

Swith - Today at 9:40 PM
To clarify: "pl" is a long-running, unofficial training RP in our subforum. We're not gonna promote it, plox. TY.

Rupudska - Today at 9:40 PM
and if you're capablewilling to read

Swith - Today at 9:41 PM
Q 14: by Mount Seymour / Somyrion "What's the time commitment for P2TM RP like?"

The Knockout Gun Gals - Today at 9:41 PM
Depending on your time

Monfrox - Today at 9:41 PM
It really depends on the RP

Rupudska - Today at 9:41 PM
Depends on how much per post the OP wants

Monfrox - Today at 9:41 PM
Some go fast, some go slow

Lykos - Today at 9:42 PM
when running a game, its more hard on time, when you're just playing it could be anywhere from daily to weekly
or even less

Esternial - Today at 9:42 PM
Varies greatly, sometimes folks post multiple times a day, sometimes you can post once every few days

Monfrox - Today at 9:42 PM
Some go slow when the OP wants them to go fast

Rupudska - Today at 9:42 PM
and then they die
:^)

Agy - Today at 9:42 PM
Depends on the RP. Time commitments can range from a post a day to a post every three days, or even multiple posts a day if it's a rapid-posting RP.
It's up to the OP, and if not officially set then up to the players.

Rupudska - Today at 9:42 PM
or if it gets dialogue heavy

Cer - Today at 9:42 PM
The OP usually states what the game requirements are. Some are "post daily". Others are "post ever other week". Check the OOC before signing up, or ask. We're a laid back forum, also. Can't post? Let your fellow players and OP know. Communication is key in P2TM.

Lykos - Today at 9:43 PM
real life before fake life!

The Knockout Gun Gals - Today at 9:43 PM
NS iS REAL LIfe

Giovenith - Today at 9:43 PM
Q14: Extremely varied. There's generally a positive correlation between average post length and time: RPs with bigger posts tend to go slow and those with smaller tend to go fast, largely because of the time it takes to write those out. Big/long RPs tend to be more common among close friends who have patience and understanding for each other's methods, whereas fast RPs tend to be more for people just meeting and getting a feel for what the other is all about.(edited)

Swith - Today at 9:43 PM
Q 15: (10 minutes remain, panelists, before the next session) "What’s the weirdest thing that’s happened in an RP in P2TM IC or OOC?"

Rupudska - Today at 9:43 PM
literally all of Elfen High
God was a library spaceship, so, you know

Esternial - Today at 9:44 PM
uhhhh

Monfrox - Today at 9:44 PM
Oh good God
I can't actually say it

Agy - Today at 9:44 PM
Abstain.

Lykos - Today at 9:44 PM
in personification life, we once diffused a situation where a bunch of ogres were about to wreck shop by offering them some tea and having a civil chat

Rupudska - Today at 9:44 PM
either that or the time (I think it was @Esternial ) killed the Big Bad of my first successful RP by just pulling the plug

Esternial - Today at 9:45 PM
Oh in Russia somewhere, wasn't it?

Lykos - Today at 9:45 PM
that isn't even the weirdest thing in PL, just one of my favorites

Giovenith - Today at 9:45 PM
Q15: Occasionally you get a troll who comes into the RP without applying or warning and starts playing recklessly. Like, you'll be writing "Alice and Bob were on their picnic..." and the troll will come in like, "AND THEN TOM THE SAMURAI FLEW IN AND DESTROYED THE ENTIRE PICNIC, BEATING UP BOB AND MAKING OUT WITH ALICE!" It's usually just a quick call to Moderation to fix, but it's always bizzare.

Rupudska - Today at 9:45 PM
i think it was in Switzerland or Russia but ye

Esternial - Today at 9:45 PM
Their fault for using a plug

Cer - Today at 9:45 PM
There really are too many to touch upon. I think my favorites have been the off-the-wall stuff. Unexpected insanity.

Rupudska - Today at 9:45 PM
I never had that happen ICly but I did have someone put up an app for Will Ferrel in my post-apocalyptic RP
well, his Anchorman character

Lykos - Today at 9:46 PM
I saw an app for the KFC man once

Monfrox - Today at 9:46 PM
I actually can't even say it and I'm mad

Esternial - Today at 9:46 PM
There was this one RP, Postapocalyptica

Monfrox - Today at 9:46 PM
POSTPOC

Esternial - Today at 9:46 PM
where I had a pretty fun character, though

Tilt - Today at 9:46 PM
Zed is awesome.

Esternial - Today at 9:47 PM
Good times

Swith - Today at 9:47 PM
Q 16: "Is anime/are anime games welcome in P2TM?"

Monfrox - Today at 9:47 PM
PL has just been full of the insanity for me

Rupudska - Today at 9:47 PM
Yes

Esternial - Today at 9:47 PM
yes

Monfrox - Today at 9:47 PM
Oh, like you wouldn't believe

Agy - Today at 9:47 PM
Of course

Tilt - Today at 9:47 PM
Yes.

Rupudska - Today at 9:47 PM
Who made this question? I shall string him from the rafters for his stupidity. Yes.

Agy - Today at 9:47 PM
They're quite popular, actually, last I checked.

Monfrox - Today at 9:47 PM
Don't do that

Giovenith - Today at 9:47 PM
Q17: Very much so. Though there are disputes in the community over how players approach them.

Rupudska - Today at 9:47 PM
They're extremely popular

Monfrox - Today at 9:47 PM
That's illegal

Rupudska - Today at 9:47 PM
not if you call them a heretic first
Actually, it's harder to find RPs that don't allow animu in them

Swith - Today at 9:48 PM
Q17: since that was so easy... "I want to run a game. Can I just make a thread even though I'm new there?"

Rupudska - Today at 9:48 PM
Yes

Esternial- Today at 9:48 PM
Of course

The Knockout Gun Gals - Today at 9:48 PM
@Rupudska We don't string people!

Monfrox - Today at 9:48 PM
SEVERAL PEOPLE ARE TYPING (YES)

Rupudska - Today at 9:48 PM
Also I change my mind about the easiest RP type to join, the answer is 'multiverse crossover RPs'

Lykos - Today at 9:48 PM
anime is probably one of our largest genres :stuck_out_tongue:

Cer - Today at 9:49 PM
Yes, but you might not get much of a response.

Rupudska - Today at 9:49 PM
i saw one somehow burn through to the 500 page cap in the span of three months

Esternial - Today at 9:49 PM
It would be worth the effort to check for interest in the Traveller's Café, but in general you can post a new OOC to recruit RP'ers if you want

Tilt - Today at 9:49 PM
Q17. Yes, but you may not get the attention you seek.

Giovenith - Today at 9:49 PM
Q17: You can, but you might want to wait until you have a good understanding of what an attractive P2TM thread looks like. You can't just throw up a post that says "there was a dark castle with a vampire living in it" and expect people to go on from there.

Agy - Today at 9:49 PM
Yes, but you might want to participate in other threads first to build up a group that is familiar with you and would like to RP with you.

Rupudska - Today at 9:49 PM
Da

Cer - Today at 9:49 PM
^ What Gio said.

Esternial - Today at 9:49 PM
For info: The Traveller's Café is a place where you can post your idea and discuss it

The Knockout Gun Gals - Today at 9:49 PM
@Rupudska Multiverse crossover is not easy

Rupudska - Today at 9:49 PM
Yes it is
To join at least

Lykos - Today at 9:49 PM
hard to run

The Knockout Gun Gals - Today at 9:50 PM
Joining it is a chore

Lykos - Today at 9:50 PM
gotta balance people or you have gods just kicking around mortals for fun :stuck_out_tongue:

Swith - Today at 9:50 PM
Q18: Are there any genre or concepts that are banned?"

Rupudska - Today at 9:50 PM
Porn

Esternial - Today at 9:50 PM
Anything non PG13

Lykos - Today at 9:50 PM
basically
anything depicting atrocities too, but that falls under sety's thing

Monfrox - Today at 9:51 PM
School RPs that don't actually do any school stuff

Lykos - Today at 9:51 PM
Esty*

The Knockout Gun Gals - Today at 9:51 PM
Porn is banned?

Rupudska - Today at 9:51 PM
Anything above PG-13, but you can stretch it for a lot of things unless those things are porn or straight out of al-Qaeda terrorist videos

Giovenith - Today at 9:51 PM
Q18: Anything R-rated, like explicit sex or over the top violence. You also want to avoid creating something that resembles a Chat-Hang Out thread, which are banned.

Cer - Today at 9:51 PM
Chat location threads/chill threads.

Tilt - Today at 9:51 PM
Q18. That thing that Rep Prod posted.

Agy - Today at 9:51 PM
Porn obviously. And gorn - excessively violent concepts where the focus is torture or pain or rape.
And yes CLTs are banned.

Rupudska - Today at 9:51 PM
unless you're Ralkovia

The Knockout Gun Gals - Today at 9:52 PM
What about horror?

Giovenith - Today at 9:52 PM
That's not to say you can't explore sex or violence, but it needs to be kept PG-13. If it wouldn't work in a children's novel like Harry Potter or Hunger Games, it won't work for P2TM.

Lykos - Today at 9:52 PM
youy can do horror without gorn/under pg13

Rupudska - Today at 9:52 PM
though one of my first II RPs was with a nation that played a terrorist organization straight (and very well might I add) who got about as close to the PG-13 line as I believe is possible

Swith - Today at 9:52 PM
Final Question is not a question! "Can people PM our panelists for further questions or to learn more about P2TM?"

Rupudska - Today at 9:52 PM
he's an ex-nation now tho

The Knockout Gun Gals - Today at 9:52 PM
What about horror like the Zone, I mean?

Tilt - Today at 9:52 PM
Yes.

Lykos - Today at 9:52 PM
hell, I've been more terrified by Cer's halloween posts for personfication life(edited)

The Knockout Gun Gals - Today at 9:52 PM
@Swith someone PM'ed me that question.

Monfrox - Today at 9:52 PM
Sure

Esternial - Today at 9:52 PM
I don't suppose we're allowed to say "no"

Rupudska - Today at 9:52 PM
Please use Discord instead I like to keep my TGs clean, but ye

The Knockout Gun Gals - Today at 9:52 PM
You know, the "what is the point of this panel" question.

Cer - Today at 9:53 PM
Hm. Sure, PM is fine. It's better to contact me on NS via TG (Cerillium)

Agy - Today at 9:53 PM
Please, go ahead.

Giovenith - Today at 9:53 PM
Q19: Of course! That's what Mentors are here for, and there are plenty of others who would love to help.

Lykos - Today at 9:53 PM
maybe, mention me the context though

Esternial - Today at 9:53 PM
I'd suggest TG as well
for me

Agy - Today at 9:53 PM
I would prefer Discord DMs as I'm not too active on NS right now and may not respond to TGs.

Monfrox - Today at 9:53 PM
I would prefer you also tell me who you are though because people who add me without giving me a heads up as to why get the third degree

Rupudska - Today at 9:53 PM
That, too, let me know who youa are

Swith - Today at 9:53 PM
I'm always available through TG or PM. You can reach any P2TM Mentor for assistance, as well. Our listing is https://forum.nationstates.net/memberlist.php?mode=group&g=15
Alright, let's wrap this so Lamoni can gear up for the next.
Thank you, Panelists! This ends our session!

**NSWF VI **
LOCATION: Audience Chamber
TOPIC: "The Fifth Dimension: P2TM”
TIME: COMPLETED

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