Court Inquiry re: GOF

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Court Inquiry re: GOF; Court Inquiry into alleged criminal activities
Tweet Topic Started: Apr 15 2016, 12:28 PM (1,052 Views)
Amerion	Apr 15 2016, 12:28 PM Post #1
Star Destroyer Posts: 6,524 Group: Accused Member #29 Joined: Apr 9, 2015 Alignment Lawful Good Military Stance Neutral Political Views Independent Nation in Lazarus Amerion Discord Amerion#9702	The full bench of the Court is in agreement that proceedings will go forward to reexamine the feasibility of perusing a criminal case into the alleged crimes committed by what is commonly known as the Gang of Five. For the record, the Court acknowledges a prior criminal complaint filed by The Church of Satan as being the basis for this inquiry. The complaint filed accuses Stujenske, Feux, Pergamon, Milograd/Yao, A Mean Old Man of aggression, harassment, subversion, conspiracy, fraud, forum destruction, and deserting the then administration. At this time, the Court seeks a citizen of Lazarus to come forward and volunteer their services as a representative of the public and to operate in the capacity of prosecutor for the duration of this case.



The Church of Satan	Apr 15 2016, 05:51 PM Post #2
I HAVE CHORTLES! Posts: 861 Group: Accused Member #7 Joined: Apr 8, 2015 Alignment Lawful Good Military Stance Neutral Political Views Independent Nation in Lazarus Lazarus CoS	If it would please the court, I volunteer to be the public's representative.



Loftegen	Apr 15 2016, 06:19 PM Post #3
Supreme Autocrat Posts: 11,070 Group: Members Member #108 Joined: Apr 23, 2015 Alignment Lawful Good Military Stance Neutral Political Views Independent	The Church of Satan Apr 15 2016, 05:51 PM If it would please the court, I volunteer to be the public's representative. Thanks, CoS! Give 'em hell!



Amerion	Apr 16 2016, 11:18 AM Post #4
Star Destroyer Posts: 6,524 Group: Accused Member #29 Joined: Apr 9, 2015 Alignment Lawful Good Military Stance Neutral Political Views Independent Nation in Lazarus Amerion Discord Amerion#9702	The Church of Satan Apr 15 2016, 05:51 PM If it would please the court, I volunteer to be the public's representative. Duly noted. The Court shall consult with one another as to the steps we take from here. Please be patient.



Milograd	Apr 17 2016, 05:17 AM Post #5
Heir Hazard Posts: 54 Group: Members Member #198 Joined: Sep 22, 2015	Amerion Apr 15 2016, 12:28 PM The full bench of the Court is in agreement that proceedings will go forward to reexamine the feasibility of perusing a criminal case into the alleged crimes committed by what is commonly known as the Gang of Five. Bold mine. Is that to literally say the premises, both logical and judicial, of a potential trial are going to be examined, or that you're just going to pursue a trial?



Amerion	Apr 17 2016, 08:06 AM Post #6
Star Destroyer Posts: 6,524 Group: Accused Member #29 Joined: Apr 9, 2015 Alignment Lawful Good Military Stance Neutral Political Views Independent Nation in Lazarus Amerion Discord Amerion#9702	With regards to Milograd's question, the Court seeks to examine whether there are grounds to warrant a trial. At present, a majority of Justices are uncertain if it is judicially legitimate for a Court of the Humane Republic of Lazarus to preside over a trial of individuals accused of crimes allegedly committed in the era and under the judicial code of the People's Republic of Lazarus. The Court invites submissions by interested parties to address the aforementioned question. Please have these briefs submitted in 72 hours of this post so the Court can make an informed determination.



Funkadelia	Apr 17 2016, 07:37 PM Post #7
Posts: 2,155 Group: King of the Undead Member #86 Joined: Apr 22, 2015 Alignment Chaotic Neutral Military Stance Raider Political Views Socialist Nation in Lazarus Funkadelia	What is the point in having a "prosecutor" if there is no legal need to have one? The entire basis of this court is to do the fact finding, not having someone do it for them.



Loftegen	Apr 17 2016, 09:15 PM Post #8
Supreme Autocrat Posts: 11,070 Group: Members Member #108 Joined: Apr 23, 2015 Alignment Lawful Good Military Stance Neutral Political Views Independent	Amerion Apr 17 2016, 08:06 AM With regards to Milograd's question, the Court seeks to examine whether there are grounds to warrant a trial. At present, a majority of Justices are uncertain if it is judicially legitimate for a Court of the Humane Republic of Lazarus to preside over a trial of individuals accused of crimes allegedly committed in the era and under the judicial code of the People's Republic of Lazarus. The Court invites submissions by interested parties to address the aforementioned question. Please have these briefs submitted in 72 hours of this post so the Court can make an informed determination. I've spent a year trying to ban the Gang of Five from Lazarus via clauses in the original Mandate, via an amendment to the mandate, and via statute, only to be told over and over that the Grand Court is the best/correct/only legitimate way to go, and now you're not sure it would be legitimate to try them under their own laws? A year of delay, obfuscation, foot-dragging and excuse-making does not engender confidence in the Grand Court. The task before you is simple: examine the evidence and decide whether the members of the Gang of Five, individually and/or collectively, violated the People's Republic of Lazarus laws they are accused of breaking; and if you find they did, recommend punishments according to those same laws. I urge you to get to it.



Loftegen	Apr 17 2016, 09:25 PM Post #9
Supreme Autocrat Posts: 11,070 Group: Members Member #108 Joined: Apr 23, 2015 Alignment Lawful Good Military Stance Neutral Political Views Independent	Funkadelia Apr 17 2016, 07:37 PM What is the point in having a "prosecutor" if there is no legal need to have one? The entire basis of this court is to do the fact finding, not having someone do it for them. I agree; some members of the Grand Court seem intent on ignoring the Unified Legal Code, specifically: Quote: Article II - Judicial Inquiries (1) All Criminal, Civil and Legal matters will be dealt with via Judicial Inquiry. (2) All Judicial Inquiries will be conducted by a tribunal consisting of the Chief Justice and two Associate Justices. (3) The purpose of a Judicial Inquiry is always to establish the facts of the matter, and then resolve the issue. All Judicial Inquiries will be conducted publicly via a non-adversarial hearing. (4) All Judicial Inquiries will run for a minimum of seven days, and may be extended beyond this at the discretion of the Chief Justice. Indeed it seems that a trial, as such, would be illegal!



The Church of Satan	Apr 18 2016, 03:05 AM Post #10
I HAVE CHORTLES! Posts: 861 Group: Accused Member #7 Joined: Apr 8, 2015 Alignment Lawful Good Military Stance Neutral Political Views Independent Nation in Lazarus Lazarus CoS	Chief Justice, I enter into evidence the following http://www.nationstates.net/page=display_region_rmb/region=lazarus?jump_to_page=836&start=20875 http://www.nationstates.net/page=display_region_rmb/region=lazarus?start=20925 http://www.nationstates.net/page=display_region_rmb/region=lazarus?start=21000 NPO Official Statement http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=337955&start=150#p24288139 Motion For a Vote of No Confidence in Stujenske Plebiscite Vote of No Confidence in Stujesnke] WA Condemnation of Stujenske for His Betrayal of Lazarus WA Condemnation of The Pacific For It's Involvement in The Coup of Lazarus [I'd like to remind the court that as a result The Pacific became the first GCR in the entire history of NationStates to be condemned, specifically for masterminding the coup.] Will the court be taking into account the preliminary evidence from the first criminal complaint or will I be required to re-submit it?



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