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| Proposal to Grant Voting Rights to Long Term Residents | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: Apr 24 2015, 11:34 PM (418 Views) | |
| Kazmr | Apr 24 2015, 11:34 PM Post #1 |
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I'm making this a separate thread because I don't think its really getting proper discussion buried at the bottom of the constitutional draft. I've made it clear that I believe that we should seriously consider giving residents of the gameside region a voice in the actual running, without necessarily requiring them to join the forum. A number of long term residents played a part, whether it was offering to be an endorsement target or simply draining substantial amounts of Stujenske's influence, and I think there needs to be a reward for that, even if they don't necessarily play the game our way. Thus, I have created a proposal that would allow long term residents of the region to have a real stake in regional affairs. Who would be potentially eligible? Individuals who are among the 300 longest consecutive residents in the region, and potentially those granted the right by vote of the legislature (for instance someone who would have been in this category were it not for a coup ejecting them) How do we prevent manipulation? First off, an individual must be currently in the World Assembly and endorsing the delegate. This helps ensure 'one person, one vote'. Second off, to vote for anything, they must have been ELIGIBLE throughout the entire course of discussion for it, from first proposal to the actual vote being passed or rejected. Thus, the nation must have been in the WA and endorsing the delegate when a bill first has a thread created in congress, throughout all discussion, and until the vote closes. To vote for an elected official, they must have been eligible and endorsing when nominations first opened, or something similar. Thus, anyone who wanted to maintain a sleeper in the region to have voting power would not only have to wait a year, they would have to continuously maintain an endorsement on the delegate in case some bill arose. I find it hard to imagine that someone would be dedicated enough to permanently park their WA here, but go short of the forums itself, just to manipulate the region. Finally, we can extend criminal prosecution to these individuals. If they break the regional law, they lose their right to vote and face ejection. This one may be a bit tricker to enforce, I will admit, and I welcome proposals to help ensure it. How would we know who is eligible? I have already written a short script that quickly identifies those nations meeting the conditions. It would be a very simple matter to maintain a table in a database that is added to daily with nations eligible on that day, and a simple front end to easily access records for any day. How do we keep these people from overruling the forum every time? IF you take a look at this post, I demonstrated that there are currently 17 nations in the region who would be eligible under the proposal here (300 nations). This corresponds to roughly a year in the region. A handful of those are defender sleepers active in present operations. I think that it is reasonably to expect that many of these nations would not vote. Thus, this is not an absolutely overwhelming number of voters, nor will it be logistically unwieldy. How do we keep them informed I have two separate ideas on that. One would be to maintain a dispatch with bills or officials currently up for vote, and a list of the nations eligible on it, as well as a nation to TG votes to. They can also TG someone with their intent to run for election if we so chose to grant that right. The other would be to telegram eligible nations whenever something goes up to vote. As the number is not really that high, I don't think that this would be a logistical nightmare. Further, it would be possible to create some sort of auto-TG tool using the API to inform eligible nations of votes. I am willing to publicly post any of the code used to maintain such a system so that it does not die with me. IT is also possible to keep the constitutional language enabling this system vague on the technical mechanics so as to not be locked into this specific flow. I welcome disagreement (or maybe even agreement), and would like suggestions. |
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| Kazmr | Apr 25 2015, 11:36 PM Post #21 |
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Cormac has a good point, btw, on the present citizenship application. Its on its way out soon anyway, and many of those users were alienated during the days of the PRL. We can't legally change it until a new Constitution is drafted, so the masking is a way to accommodate individuals in the meantime, until a place in the community can be settled. |
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| Gulliver | Apr 26 2015, 12:24 AM Post #22 |
Lazarene
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That's what I suspected. What concerns me about this proposal is that whoever is gathering the telegrams could easily lie about how people voted, and since the people voting aren't spending time on the forums or watching votes closely it seems like they could get away with it. |
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| Kazmr | Apr 26 2015, 12:45 AM Post #23 |
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I would presume that the individual in charge of receiving votes would be an individual who could hopefully be trusted. The speaker of the assembly, perhaps some sort of election commissioner, the elected delegate. Perhaps votes themselves could be required to be listed publicly following the TG vote? In the voting thread perhaps? Or even list full voting results in the aforementioned dispatch? |
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| Benevolent Thomas | Apr 26 2015, 01:29 AM Post #24 |
Blessed of the Vale
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Hey now, I'm not looking to make this personal. I'm just bringing what experience has taught me to the table and offering my opinion. I'm not saying I want stuff my way or the highway. I'll be here regardless if gameside natives get a say or not. Of course if you're going to critique me for being elitist, lets let that judgement pendulum swing back around and smack those who think they are superior because they were here first right in the face 
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| Powthran | Apr 26 2015, 01:41 AM Post #25 |
Lazarene
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Or just have them send them to two different people to make them more accountable. An election commission rather than a commissioner. |
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| Trackeendy | Apr 26 2015, 03:02 AM Post #26 |
True Native
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Idk, is it really that hard to just apply for citizenship on the forum. It takes a few seconds at best. This seems to be making things more complicated. |
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| Harmoneia | Apr 26 2015, 03:33 AM Post #27 |
Mhysa
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Well if there's a script for it, then that makes things a whole lot easier. |
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