Vote: Should an Alignment be Specified in the Constitution?

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Vote: Should an Alignment be Specified in the Constitution?
Tweet Topic Started: Apr 24 2015, 11:05 PM (702 Views)
Gulliver	Apr 24 2015, 11:05 PM Post #1
Lazarene Posts: 241 Group: Members Member #2 Joined: Apr 8, 2015	The question this time is whether we should specify our military alignment in the constitution. Vote for the options you approve of: Specify alignment as defender in constitution Specify alignment as either defender or neutral Don't specify alignment Prohibit being invader Other (please specify) Edited by Gulliver, Apr 27 2015, 11:16 AM.

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Kazmr	Apr 29 2015, 08:07 PM Post #31
Lazarene Posts: 987 Group: Members Member #85 Joined: Apr 22, 2015 Alignment Lawful Good Military Stance Neutral	I have to agree with Cormac on that. War is an exceptional circumstance, and if the military is to be prt of the executive, the way the wind seems to be blowing, the LLA should be able to act on it. However, actual invasion of raider regions means very little. TBRs quic cut and run speaks to that, and us tying down resources there would be a total waste.



killer kitty	Apr 30 2015, 12:14 AM Post #32
THIS COLOR ANNOYS LAMB Posts: 367 Group: Administrator Member #114 Joined: Apr 23, 2015 Alignment Chaotic Neutral Military Stance Raider Nation in Lazarus Killer Kitty	Cormac Apr 29 2015, 06:41 PM If we want to, we can also include the ability to invade raider regions that we haven't declared war against, though I don't recommend that. Defender resources are better spent defending, not invading. Maybe we should just completely embrace the Defender hypocrisy and declare war against all raiders now, eh? That way we can be true Fendas. Edited by killer kitty, Apr 30 2015, 12:30 AM.



Cormac	Apr 30 2015, 03:24 AM Post #33
Lazarene Posts: 398 Group: Members Member #9 Joined: Apr 8, 2015 Alignment Chaotic Neutral Military Stance Raider Political Views Independent Nation in Lazarus Cormactopia II Skype cormac.ns Discord Cormac#9408	killer kitty Apr 30 2015, 12:14 AM Cormac Apr 29 2015, 06:41 PM If we want to, we can also include the ability to invade raider regions that we haven't declared war against, though I don't recommend that. Defender resources are better spent defending, not invading. Maybe we should just completely embrace the Defender hypocrisy and declare war against all raiders now, eh? That way we can be true Fendas. As you'll note, I was against invading raider regions. I think this is the appropriate time to ask if you're here to contribute anything at all productive for Lazarus, or if you're just looking to advance raider interests.



killer kitty	Apr 30 2015, 03:47 AM Post #34
THIS COLOR ANNOYS LAMB Posts: 367 Group: Administrator Member #114 Joined: Apr 23, 2015 Alignment Chaotic Neutral Military Stance Raider Nation in Lazarus Killer Kitty	Cormac Apr 30 2015, 03:24 AM I think this is the appropriate time to ask if you're here to contribute anything at all productive for Lazarus, or if you're just looking to advance raider interests. Part of the reason why Stu is banned right now and not sitting in Lazarus is because of me and the influence he burned in banning me twice, so I think I've already contributed, thank you very much. And advance raider interests? This entire thread is about turning Lazarus into a permanent Defender region and you're accusing me of advancing raider interests? Oh, that's a grand joke. Edited by killer kitty, Apr 30 2015, 03:54 AM.



Benevolent Thomas	Apr 30 2015, 04:22 AM Post #35
Blessed of the Vale Posts: 1,532 Group: Members Member #63 Joined: Apr 14, 2015 Alignment Lawful Good Military Stance Neutral Nation in Lazarus Benevolent Thomas	Cormac Apr 30 2015, 03:24 AM As you'll note, I was against invading raider regions. You weren't when we invaded Madrigal.



killer kitty	Apr 30 2015, 04:39 AM Post #36
THIS COLOR ANNOYS LAMB Posts: 367 Group: Administrator Member #114 Joined: Apr 23, 2015 Alignment Chaotic Neutral Military Stance Raider Nation in Lazarus Killer Kitty	Benevolent Thomas Apr 30 2015, 04:22 AM You weren't when we invaded Madrigal. Shh, do not taint his argument with your filthy facts, Tom. =P



Benevolent Thomas	Apr 30 2015, 04:45 AM Post #37
Blessed of the Vale Posts: 1,532 Group: Members Member #63 Joined: Apr 14, 2015 Alignment Lawful Good Military Stance Neutral Nation in Lazarus Benevolent Thomas	killer kitty Apr 30 2015, 04:39 AM Benevolent Thomas Apr 30 2015, 04:22 AM You weren't when we invaded Madrigal. Shh, do not taint his argument with your filthy facts, Tom. =P Well, he did leave the Wardens once he found out the invasion wasn't popular. I guess he's got that going for him.



Powthran	Apr 30 2015, 02:34 PM Post #38
Lazarene Posts: 523 Group: Members Member #103 Joined: Apr 22, 2015 Alignment Lawful Neutral Military Stance Uninterested Political Views Conservative Nation in Lazarus Powthran	See the argument that war is a different circumstance makes sense to me. It is not so much that I don't want us to be a defender but that I don't think we should limit our government by the constitution.



Powthran	Apr 30 2015, 02:36 PM Post #39
Lazarene Posts: 523 Group: Members Member #103 Joined: Apr 22, 2015 Alignment Lawful Neutral Military Stance Uninterested Political Views Conservative Nation in Lazarus Powthran	See the argument that war is a different circumstance makes sense to me. It is not so much that I don't want us to be a defender but that I don't think we should limit our government by the constitution.



Monomaniac	Apr 30 2015, 08:15 PM Post #40
Pauper of Spam Posts: 1,138 Group: Members Member #134 Joined: Apr 29, 2015	I vote for 4. We could add a vote to overrule the no invasion law, in the event that we felt it necessary to invade or go to war. I'm not sure if the vote should rest with the people or elected officials though. Edit: Upon further thinking, the vote could be a 2/3 popular vote among citizens. Then it can be brought before party leaders for a final vote. Edited by Monomaniac, Apr 30 2015, 09:35 PM.



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