A Permanent ban

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A Permanent ban; An article for the Constitution
Tweet Topic Started: Apr 24 2015, 07:02 AM (324 Views)
Loftegen	Apr 24 2015, 07:02 AM Post #1
Supreme Autocrat Posts: 11,070 Group: Members Member #108 Joined: Apr 23, 2015 Alignment Lawful Good Military Stance Neutral Political Views Independent	I only know how I feel about this, which is to say: angry, bitter, and vindictive. Perhaps others have more moderate views, which is fine; especially since they may know the people I'm going to mention in Real Life, which is also fine. I'm not going to throw a fit if this doesn't make it into the final constitution, but I think it needs to be said. So, a proposed article: Article X: Banned Players The following nations, the Real Life people who created them, and all associated puppets are permanently banned from Lazarus: Feux, A mean old man, Milograd, Stujenske, Pergamon, and The Sweet Leaf. On the posting of a public apology in the Gameplay subforum of the NationStates forums, the Convocation of Souls may consider removing the aforesaid ban from the apologizing individual(s), such removal requiring a 2/3 majority vote. It's harsh, but I feel it is completely justified.



Gulliver	Apr 24 2015, 07:15 AM Post #2
Lazarene Posts: 241 Group: Members Member #2 Joined: Apr 8, 2015	I'd also be fine with a permanent ban, but does it have to be written into the Constitution? I'd hate for the governing document of what's supposed to be a thriving democracy to pay homage to their sort by name in any fashion.



Arlo	Apr 24 2015, 08:56 AM Post #3
Lazarene Posts: 60 Group: Members Member #92 Joined: Apr 22, 2015	I think having it in the constitution places a bit of a sour note on the whole fresh start thing. Better to just have the new legislature (or whoever has the authority) pass such a ban immediately after it's created.



Benevolent Thomas	Apr 24 2015, 04:30 PM Post #4
Blessed of the Vale Posts: 1,532 Group: Members Member #63 Joined: Apr 14, 2015 Alignment Lawful Good Military Stance Neutral Nation in Lazarus Benevolent Thomas	Yeah, nothing in the constitution.



Dyr Nasad	Apr 24 2015, 06:14 PM Post #5
Lazarene Posts: 189 Group: Members Member #21 Joined: Apr 8, 2015	The perm ban makes sense, but I also dislike naming them in such an important document. Leave it to the new government to handle



Harmoneia	Apr 24 2015, 06:35 PM Post #6
Mhysa Posts: 657 Group: Accused Member #42 Joined: Apr 11, 2015 Alignment Lawful Good Military Stance Neutral Political Views Independent Nation in Lazarus Harmoneia	I concur, it would make perfect sense as an amendment later on though. :$



Cormac	Apr 24 2015, 07:31 PM Post #7
Lazarene Posts: 398 Group: Members Member #9 Joined: Apr 8, 2015 Alignment Chaotic Neutral Military Stance Raider Political Views Independent Nation in Lazarus Cormactopia II Skype cormac.ns Discord Cormac#9408	I've never been a huge fan of permanent bans. I'm not saying none of these people warrant one, but circumstances and feelings do tend to change over time in NationStates. I think it would be better to implement some kind of persona non grata power in statute. Maybe allow the assembly to declare a person PNG by majority vote and to repeal a PNG by majority vote. But I agree that this doesn't need to be in the constitution.



Courlany	Apr 26 2015, 11:46 PM Post #8
Lazarene Posts: 30 Group: Members Member #47 Joined: Apr 11, 2015	I like his sensible idea that a permanent ban may be overturned with a two-thirds majority vote by users. That is right-headed thinking. Shows that we are above the B.S.



Courlany	Apr 26 2015, 11:48 PM Post #9
Lazarene Posts: 30 Group: Members Member #47 Joined: Apr 11, 2015	Those users should be made into a museum piece. Do we have a Lazarene Museum of Culture?



The Church of Satan	Apr 27 2015, 03:19 AM Post #10
I HAVE CHORTLES! Posts: 861 Group: Accused Member #7 Joined: Apr 8, 2015 Alignment Lawful Good Military Stance Neutral Political Views Independent Nation in Lazarus Lazarus CoS	Could just leave that to forum administration.



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