Regarding Our Mandate

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Regarding Our Mandate; A discussion on reform
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Lamb	Jul 25 2017, 03:32 AM Post #1
Posts: 884 Group: Regent Member #387 Joined: Aug 7, 2016 Alignment Chaotic Neutral Military Stance Raider Political Views Anarchist Nation in Lazarus Scum	It has been blatantly apparent the last several months that our region has been stricken with discrepancies, ambiguities, and just all around problems regarding our Mandate. Over the last week or so that has been taken into account via a discussion on direct reform, or rewriting, of our constitution entirely. This is something I would like to address before the Council, so that we may collaborate and swiftly decide what we are to do. There is no question that we need some sort of action to rewrite our Mandate, but this presents quite the crossroads for our region, especially considering the recent events regarding the coup conspiracy. Multiple people have proposed a change in theme, perhaps even a reform to the structure of the region. I know a lot of us have ideas, but in the end we certainly need a plainly written, efficient, and effective constitution so that we do not run into the multiple issues we have recently again. Talk.

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Kade W. Vasentius	Jul 26 2017, 04:17 PM Post #41
Kadey the Sysadmin Posts: 36 Group: Accused Member #586 Joined: Apr 14, 2017 Political Views Independent Alignment Lawful Good Military Stance Neutral Nation in Lazarus heesaohrenilar Discord Redorhcs#6647	Lamb Jul 26 2017, 07:31 AM Kade W. Vasentius Jul 26 2017, 06:30 AM we're repeating the more in document What? Sorry, meant to say "lore". Iirc we've had conflicts with lore and law in previous mandates.



The13th	Jul 26 2017, 05:34 PM Post #42
Guy in the Public Eye Posts: 455 Group: Citizen Member #547 Joined: Mar 3, 2017 Political Views Independent Alignment Neutral Good Military Stance Neutral Nation in Lazarus Daybreak13	I like Dralls. Funks proposed plan has too much power in a person that can't be taken out of power. I don't like it.



Benjamin Linus	Jul 26 2017, 05:45 PM Post #43
Lazarene Posts: 242 Group: Citizen Member #408 Joined: Aug 22, 2016 Alignment Chaotic Good Military Stance Raider Political Views Communist Nation in Lazarus Benjamin Linus Skype thalerlandking Discord Sygian #6227	The13th Jul 26 2017, 05:34 PM I like Dralls. Funks proposed plan has too much power in a person that can't be taken out of power. I don't like it. When has the alternative ever worked for Lazarus? Look where we are now, and then take a look at Balder and Osiris - our sister sinkers.



The13th	Jul 26 2017, 05:49 PM Post #44
Guy in the Public Eye Posts: 455 Group: Citizen Member #547 Joined: Mar 3, 2017 Political Views Independent Alignment Neutral Good Military Stance Neutral Nation in Lazarus Daybreak13	Sygian Jul 26 2017, 05:45 PM The13th Jul 26 2017, 05:34 PM I like Dralls. Funks proposed plan has too much power in a person that can't be taken out of power. I don't like it. When has the alternative ever worked for Lazarus? Look where we are now, and then take a look at Balder and Osiris - our sister sinkers. We were fine until Funk pulled this card out of his sleeve and ruined the beautiful Lazarus I used to love.



Benjamin Linus	Jul 26 2017, 05:50 PM Post #45
Lazarene Posts: 242 Group: Citizen Member #408 Joined: Aug 22, 2016 Alignment Chaotic Good Military Stance Raider Political Views Communist Nation in Lazarus Benjamin Linus Skype thalerlandking Discord Sygian #6227	The13th Jul 26 2017, 05:49 PM Sygian Jul 26 2017, 05:45 PM The13th Jul 26 2017, 05:34 PM I like Dralls. Funks proposed plan has too much power in a person that can't be taken out of power. I don't like it. When has the alternative ever worked for Lazarus? Look where we are now, and then take a look at Balder and Osiris - our sister sinkers. We were fine until Funk pulled this card out of his sleeve and ruined the beautiful Lazarus I used to love. The Lazarus that was going to be couped by this so called "La Resistance," that Funkadelia rescued us from? Ha, you are funny.



The13th	Jul 26 2017, 05:51 PM Post #46
Guy in the Public Eye Posts: 455 Group: Citizen Member #547 Joined: Mar 3, 2017 Political Views Independent Alignment Neutral Good Military Stance Neutral Nation in Lazarus Daybreak13	Sygian Jul 26 2017, 05:50 PM The13th Jul 26 2017, 05:49 PM Sygian Jul 26 2017, 05:45 PM The13th Jul 26 2017, 05:34 PM I like Dralls. Funks proposed plan has too much power in a person that can't be taken out of power. I don't like it. When has the alternative ever worked for Lazarus? Look where we are now, and then take a look at Balder and Osiris - our sister sinkers. We were fine until Funk pulled this card out of his sleeve and ruined the beautiful Lazarus I used to love. The Lazarus that was going to be couped by this so called "La Resistance," that Funkadelia rescued us from? Ha, you are funny. I am funny IRL thanks for the compliment! But I wasn't trying to be funny.



Tawks	Jul 26 2017, 07:19 PM Post #47
Lazarene Posts: 75 Group: Members Member #640 Joined: Jul 11, 2017 Political Views Green Alignment Chaotic Neutral Nation in Lazarus Marthizer Discord Tawks VerinGuard	The13th Jul 26 2017, 05:34 PM I like Dralls. Funks proposed plan has too much power in a person that can't be taken out of power. I don't like it. But iirc with a vote from the Council of Rot they can be removed, I would also suggest that it be changed to 2/3 of a vote from the council, and again that the council be all citizens. This will mean 2/3 of the citizens can impeach the king... I feel that is a good setup!



Lamb	Jul 26 2017, 11:10 PM Post #48
Posts: 884 Group: Regent Member #387 Joined: Aug 7, 2016 Alignment Chaotic Neutral Military Stance Raider Political Views Anarchist Nation in Lazarus Scum	Kade W. Vasentius Jul 26 2017, 04:17 PM Lamb Jul 26 2017, 07:31 AM Kade W. Vasentius Jul 26 2017, 06:30 AM we're repeating the more in document What? Sorry, meant to say "lore". Iirc we've had conflicts with lore and law in previous mandates. I'm not sure that the lore/theme references in Funk's proposal is the equivalent of the convoluted mess and literal RP terminology rampant throughout our current Mandate. Regardless of the theme and the names, the language is pretty plainly written and isn't full of contradictions and ambiguous references to powers that are basically RP.



Drop Your Pants	Jul 27 2017, 02:41 AM Post #49
🐑 Lazarse 🐑 Posts: 8,388,607 Group: Members Member #143 Joined: May 5, 2015 Alignment Lawful Good Military Stance Neutral Political Views Independent Nation in Lazarus Sheeptastic Discord DYP	Sygian Jul 26 2017, 05:45 PM The13th Jul 26 2017, 05:34 PM I like Dralls. Funks proposed plan has too much power in a person that can't be taken out of power. I don't like it. When has the alternative ever worked for Lazarus? Look where we are now, and then take a look at Balder and Osiris - our sister sinkers. The last decade and a half as it happens. Lets look at Balder, its pretty inactive. They're had a few drives for activity but it never pans out. Rach calls into GP now and again to remind the world she's still alive. Lets look at ~~Coupland~~ Osiris. And now lets look away. TRR on the other hand, stable sinker with a similar system to our current one. Bad examples that man. Lamb Regardless of the theme and the names, the language is pretty plainly written and isn't full of contradictions and ambiguous references to powers that are basically RP. Read my big long post and then try the 'contradictions and ambiguous references' thing again



Benjamin Linus	Jul 27 2017, 03:21 AM Post #50
Lazarene Posts: 242 Group: Citizen Member #408 Joined: Aug 22, 2016 Alignment Chaotic Good Military Stance Raider Political Views Communist Nation in Lazarus Benjamin Linus Skype thalerlandking Discord Sygian #6227	Drop Your Pants Jul 27 2017, 02:41 AM Sygian Jul 26 2017, 05:45 PM The13th Jul 26 2017, 05:34 PM I like Dralls. Funks proposed plan has too much power in a person that can't be taken out of power. I don't like it. When has the alternative ever worked for Lazarus? Look where we are now, and then take a look at Balder and Osiris - our sister sinkers. The last decade and a half as it happens. Lets look at Balder, its pretty inactive. They're had a few drives for activity but it never pans out. Rach calls into GP now and again to remind the world she's still alive. Lets look at ~~Coupland~~ Osiris. And now lets look away. TRR on the other hand, stable sinker with a similar system to our current one. Bad examples that man. You're such an old man! 1. Balder is extremely active on the interior. Their only problem is their FA, which is why everyone perceives it as inactive. Their discord is extremely active and annoying (I left it a while back) and there is always stuff going on in the forums. 2. "Coupland" lol I laughed but let's be real, Osiris hasn't had a legitimate constitutional monarchy until Cormac couped last year. Since then, they've been doing pretty good. No risk of coups, and pretty solid activity. 3. Who likes TRR that much?



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