Amendment to the Mandate (Endo Counts)

Welcome to the forums of the Undead Dominion of Lazarus. We hope you enjoy your visit.

You're currently viewing our forum as a guest. This means you are limited to certain areas of the board and there are some features you can't use. If you join our community, you'll be able to access member-only sections, and use many member-only features such as customizing your profile, sending personal messages, and voting in polls. Registration is simple, fast, and completely free.

Join our community!

If you're already a member please log in to your account to access all of our features

Pages:
1
2

Amendment to the Mandate (Endo Counts)
Tweet Topic Started: Jul 21 2017, 08:03 PM (246 Views)
Aumelodia	Jul 21 2017, 08:03 PM Post #1
🌺 His Divine Eminence Posts: 584 Group: Accused Member #495 Joined: Dec 20, 2016 Alignment Lawful Good Military Stance Neutral Political Views Independent Nation in Lazarus Aumelodia Discord Somyrion#8047	Quote: (4) All worlds or nations shall be permitted to maintain the following endorsements counts: A. 80 WA endorsement count for residents. B. 100 WA endorsement count for nations endorsing the Sovereign. C. 20 WA endorsements or more below Defender of the Realm for citizens by forum application or extended residency. D. Guardians shall hold an endorsement count between the Defender of the Realm's and half that of the Sovereign's. Currently Guardians, having no specified endorsement count requirement elsewhere, may only maintain the same number of endorsements as regular citizens; namely, 20 below the DoTR. They also could legally have, say, 5 endorsements, which of course would do no good in a security position. This would allow them to maintain any number of endorsements up to (but not above) the DoTR's, and a minimum of half the Sovereign's, which is in fact the requirement to apply for Guardian.

Replies:
Lazarene Lenlyvit	Jul 21 2017, 09:23 PM Post #11
Lazarene Posts: 37 Group: Accused Member #504 Joined: Jan 1, 2017 Alignment Lawful Good Military Stance Neutral Political Views Independent	Wintermoot Jul 21 2017, 09:18 PM Aumelodia Jul 21 2017, 09:08 PM Currently, you are the only Guardian who has a legal endo count. If the DoTR isn't tarting, then why are they even DoTR in the first place? How about this: Quote: D. Guardians shall hold an endorsement count between the Defender of the Realm's and half that of the Sovereign's, except during a period of transition of the Defender of the Realm, during which they may maintain any endorsement count above half of the Sovereign's. That's a valid question, but we can't assume voters will demand the DotR to be active and tarting...they haven't necessarily done so in the past. What about an alternative limit in the event that the DotR has so many fewer endorsements than the Sovereign? Is 1/2+20 of the amount of the Sovereigns endorsement too high?



Constie	Jul 21 2017, 10:13 PM Post #12
Chief Justice Emeritus of the Grand Court Posts: 830 Group: Accused Member #132 Joined: Apr 28, 2015 Alignment Lawful Good Military Stance Neutral Political Views Independent	I mean, it doesn't look like Doper is tarting very hard, he's lagged behind the Guardians this entire term, I believe. I don't see a problem with the law right now. It only doesn't work if you have a Realm Defender who doesn't tart.



The13th	Jul 22 2017, 03:09 AM Post #13
Guy in the Public Eye Posts: 455 Group: Citizen Member #547 Joined: Mar 3, 2017 Political Views Independent Alignment Neutral Good Military Stance Neutral Nation in Lazarus Daybreak13	I'm in support of these amendments. It's the DotR's job to tart.



Amerion	Jul 22 2017, 03:55 AM Post #14
Star Destroyer Posts: 6,524 Group: Accused Member #29 Joined: Apr 9, 2015 Alignment Lawful Good Military Stance Neutral Political Views Independent Nation in Lazarus Amerion Discord Amerion#9702	Full support



Mekhet	Jul 22 2017, 03:56 AM Post #15
Lazarene Posts: 20 Group: Members Member #657 Joined: Jul 18, 2017 Political Views Anarchist Alignment Chaotic Neutral Military Stance Raider Nation in Lazarus Metal Mekhet	You can't have hard numbers like that, not without subtracting from the Delegate. For instance, must be 50 endorsements below Delegate or whatever for each role and situations.



Drall	Jul 22 2017, 04:35 AM Post #16
Wildly Popular Scoundrel Posts: 173 Group: Citizen Member #584 Joined: Apr 13, 2017 Political Views Capitalist Alignment Neutral Evil Nation in Lazarus The Sleeping	If the DotR isn't tarting, they quite simply shouldn't hold that office. :p Edited by Drall, Jul 22 2017, 04:35 AM.



Cokeland Saxton	Jul 22 2017, 04:41 AM Post #17
Lazarene Posts: 28 Group: Members Member #655 Joined: Jul 16, 2017 Political Views Independent Alignment Lawful Good Military Stance Neutral Nation in Lazarus GCMR of Cokeland Discord Cokeland Saxton#0067	I support this.



killer kitty	Jul 24 2017, 06:16 AM Post #18
THIS COLOR ANNOYS LAMB Posts: 367 Group: Administrator Member #114 Joined: Apr 23, 2015 Alignment Chaotic Neutral Military Stance Raider Nation in Lazarus Killer Kitty	This seems like a good way to have the Guardians be horribly behind the Delegate if they ever coup. Hope the Defender of the Realm has a high endo count and isn't in on the plot?



Drall	Jul 24 2017, 03:50 PM Post #19
Wildly Popular Scoundrel Posts: 173 Group: Citizen Member #584 Joined: Apr 13, 2017 Political Views Capitalist Alignment Neutral Evil Nation in Lazarus The Sleeping	Saw Mek raised a good point earlier - any sane legislation in regards to endocounts will use percentages of the sovereign's count instead of hard numbers, allowing for flexibility in numbers, a somewhat obvious change. Using plain, hard set numbers is simply ridiculous, and can be quite disastrous. KK also raises a very valid point. In the event of the Delegate enacting a coup, the Guardians could, and judging by the endocounts of the last few months, probably would be left quite far behind the Delegate. Again, this would be disastrous for the obvious reasons. Probably something best fixed by enforcing a policy where the Guardians have to have a higher endorsement level, or be subject to recall from their office.



1 user reading this topic (1 Guest and 0 Anonymous)

Create a free forum in seconds. Learn More · Register Now
« Previous Topic · Cosmic Council Archive · Next Topic »

Pages:
1
2