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Request for Reiew
Tweet Topic Started: Jul 16 2017, 04:43 AM (398 Views)
Aumelodia	Jul 16 2017, 04:43 AM Post #1
🌺 His Divine Eminence Posts: 584 Group: Accused Member #495 Joined: Dec 20, 2016 Alignment Lawful Good Military Stance Neutral Political Views Independent Nation in Lazarus Aumelodia Discord Somyrion#8047	If it may please the Court, I submit a request for review and further legal inquiry into two actions: The results of the recent confirmation elections of Church of Satan and Killer Kitty were tallied including votes made by citizens who has been accepted during the course of that voting period. Additionally the reconfirmation elections of Adytus and Omega were administrated by Funkadelia, purportedly in his role as Election Commissioner. I would like to make a couple further points: The Elections Act specifies a rule on new citizens voting in elections: Elections Act 8) A citizen whose application was accepted during a regular or special election cycle is unable to cast a vote in said election. A recent decision of this esteemed Court ruled that a (re)confirmation vote for Prelates held outside the normal election cycle is in fact a Special Election (and therefore a (re)confirmation held within the cycle is a General election). In addition, the Elections Act states: Elections Act 3) In Regards to Prelates: In the clauses Article IV SS3E, and Article IV SS6 of the mandate, the term 'elect' shall be interpreted to mean a simple majority confirmation vote in the Cosmic Council. It is of my opinion that though the Elections Act may state that Prelate elections follow a different voting format, they are still regular elections in all other legal senses. Either a Prelate (re)confirmation is an election, in which case Elections Act 5.8 applied (and therefore the tallied votes are invalid) or it is not an election and instead a simple Council vote, in which case 5.8 does not apply but Funkadelia cannot legally serve as the administrator for the Votes on Adytus and Omega. I ask that the court inquire into the nature of these laws and rule on whether the results of the votes on CoS and Killer Kitty and the administration of the votes on Adytus and Omega were valid.

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The13th	Jul 17 2017, 03:25 PM Post #11
Guy in the Public Eye Posts: 455 Group: Citizen Member #547 Joined: Mar 3, 2017 Political Views Independent Alignment Neutral Good Military Stance Neutral Nation in Lazarus Daybreak13	Well if you are staying on the court for this Killer Kitty, I think it would only be fair if CoS was on the team too.



Lamb	Jul 17 2017, 03:59 PM Post #12
Posts: 884 Group: Regent Member #387 Joined: Aug 7, 2016 Alignment Chaotic Neutral Military Stance Raider Political Views Anarchist Nation in Lazarus Scum	The13th Jul 17 2017, 03:25 PM Well if you are staying on the court for this Killer Kitty, I think it would only be fair if CoS was on the team too. That's not how this works.



Harmoneia	Jul 17 2017, 04:22 PM Post #13
Mhysa Posts: 657 Group: Accused Member #42 Joined: Apr 11, 2015 Alignment Lawful Good Military Stance Neutral Political Views Independent Nation in Lazarus Harmoneia	killer kitty Jul 17 2017, 02:51 PM The Church of Satan Jul 17 2017, 02:32 PM With that In mind the court no longer has the three prelate required to preside over this inquiry and must introduce a fourth to remedy the issue. You are correct. This case is now on hold until a fourth Prelate can be appointed. I do not get the rationale of this, nor the reason why Omega needs to recuse himself when it's the nominations and not re-confirmations in question. Tbh though, our law should've addressed the issue of a prelate possibly being charged, though. Obviously this is a relatively minor issue, but what if there was a serious crime committed by a future Prelate - does he get to sit as Prelate on his trial, too? lol



The Church of Satan	Jul 17 2017, 04:25 PM Post #14
I HAVE CHORTLES! Posts: 861 Group: Accused Member #7 Joined: Apr 8, 2015 Alignment Lawful Good Military Stance Neutral Political Views Independent Nation in Lazarus Lazarus CoS	He makes an interesting point though. If EW is gonna have a hand on this ruling, and we all know he will rule in a way that directly benefits him, then why not have me on board as well? Stands to reason that someone should keep him in check.



Lamb	Jul 17 2017, 04:36 PM Post #15
Posts: 884 Group: Regent Member #387 Joined: Aug 7, 2016 Alignment Chaotic Neutral Military Stance Raider Political Views Anarchist Nation in Lazarus Scum	The Church of Satan Jul 17 2017, 04:25 PM He makes an interesting point though. If EW is gonna have a hand on this ruling, and we all know he will rule in a way that directly benefits him, then why not have me on board as well? Stands to reason that someone should keep him in check. Since this case may directly relate to you, doesn't that stance kind of contradict what you've been decrying the entire time? The point is, there is no legally binding requirement for a Prelate to recuse themselves and Omega is really just proving to hinder our court further by doing this when he doesn't need to. Remember that thing, like, the law, it's pretty important. If it comes to the point where we need another Prelate, that person should only reside temporarily and for this case only, in my opinion, since we're approaching this as a temporary replacement for Omega. Your logic that you deserve to be a Prelate because EW is one residing on this case is ridiculous and again, is a contradiction to the stance you've taken. It's not surprising how quickly your mind changes when it's for your personal gain. I'd hope as a former Prelate, you'd be capable of actually seeing the bigger picture and approaching this situation with impartiality. Judging by your behavior lately, clearly that isn't a possibility. Edited by Lamb, Jul 17 2017, 04:39 PM.



The Church of Satan	Jul 17 2017, 04:44 PM Post #16
I HAVE CHORTLES! Posts: 861 Group: Accused Member #7 Joined: Apr 8, 2015 Alignment Lawful Good Military Stance Neutral Political Views Independent Nation in Lazarus Lazarus CoS	I am only saying that if EW refuses to recuse himself I should be there to balance it out. Otherwise we're just allowing prelates to rule in their own favor and doing nothing to fight against that kind of corruption. Edited by The Church of Satan, Jul 17 2017, 04:45 PM.



Omega	Jul 17 2017, 04:46 PM Post #17
Star Lord Posts: 272 Group: Accused Member #192 Joined: Sep 12, 2015 Alignment Lawful Good Military Stance Neutral Political Views Independent Nation in Lazarus Omega Ambassador 1 Discord Omega	The reason I recused myself is that this inquiry asks if Funk legally was allowed to begin the vote on my reconfirmatiom. If he was not then I'm off the Court. Evidently this effects me in a way where it would be incredibly difficult for me to be impartial and objective. That's why I recused myself. Edited by Omega, Jul 17 2017, 04:47 PM.



Harmoneia	Jul 17 2017, 04:49 PM Post #18
Mhysa Posts: 657 Group: Accused Member #42 Joined: Apr 11, 2015 Alignment Lawful Good Military Stance Neutral Political Views Independent Nation in Lazarus Harmoneia	I get where Omega is coming from, but that would mean Adytus must also recuse himself, which is not really productive. While I appreciate that Omega is coming from a place of good intentions, I think the best case scenario would be a temporary bar of Killer Kitty from the Court as a ruling member, and an appointment of a temporary Prelate to rule this over. Then again, the law does not point to any decision-maker on this which is why we are doomed.



The Church of Satan	Jul 17 2017, 05:03 PM Post #19
I HAVE CHORTLES! Posts: 861 Group: Accused Member #7 Joined: Apr 8, 2015 Alignment Lawful Good Military Stance Neutral Political Views Independent Nation in Lazarus Lazarus CoS	And legally speaking EW is still just a nominee. Without the blessing of the CB he can't preside over anything.



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