[Proposal] Non-Voting Citizen

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[Proposal] Non-Voting Citizen
Tweet Topic Started: Jul 15 2017, 11:15 AM (217 Views)
Drop Your Pants	Jul 15 2017, 11:15 AM Post #1
🐑 Lazarse 🐑 Posts: 8,388,607 Group: Members Member #143 Joined: May 5, 2015 Alignment Lawful Good Military Stance Neutral Political Views Independent Nation in Lazarus Sheeptastic Discord DYP	So this is something i've noticed with the current ongoing votes, people are joining and immediately voting on the current votes. Now i'm not saying thats a bad thing, its good to be involved. But the sudden mass applications of citizen requests is a bit fishy. I propose that any citizen application accepted during or directly before can't vote in the elections, and possibly can't vote in major election if they join Lazarus within a few days of voting. It's something we had in previous Mandates. Someone else can do the official wording.



Harmoneia	Jul 15 2017, 11:23 AM Post #2
Mhysa Posts: 657 Group: Accused Member #42 Joined: Apr 11, 2015 Alignment Lawful Good Military Stance Neutral Political Views Independent Nation in Lazarus Harmoneia	Agreed. I think the least we had from all our past Mandates was at least 5 days?



Wintermoot	Jul 15 2017, 02:04 PM Post #3
Like Love At First Sight <3 Posts: 632 Group: Accused Member #11 Joined: Apr 8, 2015 Alignment Lawful Good Military Stance Neutral Political Views Independent Nation in Lazarus Wintermoot III	I don't know, maybe in lieu of a recruitment program we can just keep having votes on things and trust that more people will come out of the woodwork. I think this is a fine idea, though.



The13th	Jul 15 2017, 05:39 PM Post #4
Guy in the Public Eye Posts: 455 Group: Citizen Member #547 Joined: Mar 3, 2017 Political Views Independent Alignment Neutral Good Military Stance Neutral Nation in Lazarus Daybreak13	This is a great idea and is quite apparent due to the rapid amounts of new councillors popping in at the moment and voting in topics that I'm not sure they know about- hence why CoS was not elected as Prelate. I was one of those new people (and technically still am), but them hopping on and voting right away before the vote closes is, as a security issue, something that should be fixed. Or fixed at least for major Elections.



Lamb	Jul 15 2017, 06:19 PM Post #5
Posts: 884 Group: Regent Member #387 Joined: Aug 7, 2016 Alignment Chaotic Neutral Military Stance Raider Political Views Anarchist Nation in Lazarus Scum	I agree. Anyway, we have a clause specifically prohibiting participating in regular/special election voting periods for citizens who join during the period in the Elections Act. I think we can just replicate this, but pertaining to legislation specifically in the Legislative Procedures act instead of a constitutional amendment (since we have the same thing for elections that we didn't do with a Mandate amendment). I'd like to make an official proposal amending the Legislative Procedures Act with the following addition: Quote: 5: Voting (1) If the minimum time allotted for debate on a proposal has elapsed, any citizen may motion to vote on the proposal and any other citizen may second the motion. (a) In the event of a proposal presented to the Grand Assembly in accordance with Sections 1.2, 1.3, or 1.4, any citizen may motion to vote on the proposal. (2) If a motion to vote is seconded, the Speaker shall schedule a vote on the proposal no more than one day after the motion was seconded. (3) The citizen who introduced the motion to vote may withdraw it any time before the vote. (4) Citizens shall vote by publicly declaring either aye, nay or abstain in a dedicated location for votes of the Legislature. (5) The vote shall be four days. Voting for emergency matters may be abbreviated to no less than two days if agreed to by the Delegate, Vice Delegate, and Speaker. (6) If more than 48 hours have passed since a motion to vote has been seconded and no vote has been scheduled, the citizen who introduced the motion to vote may schedule a vote on the proposal. (7) A citizen whose application was accepted during the voting period of a proposal is unable to cast a vote on said proposal. This would be consistent with the wording we used in the Elections Act which was this: Quote: 8) A citizen whose application was accepted during a regular or special election cycle is unable to cast a vote in said election. I think this is a better solution than a timeframe that prohibits the participation in CC activities altogether, as the main thing we're addressing here is concerning on-going votes. Edited by Lamb, Jul 15 2017, 06:32 PM.



Tom	Jul 15 2017, 06:58 PM Post #6
Lazarene Posts: 133 Group: Necromancer of War Member #519 Joined: Jan 17, 2017 Alignment Lawful Evil Military Stance Raider Discord Tom#3775	Fully agree with this. It seems like an oversight that it wasn't included in the mandate already.



Omega	Jul 15 2017, 07:09 PM Post #7
Star Lord Posts: 272 Group: Accused Member #192 Joined: Sep 12, 2015 Alignment Lawful Good Military Stance Neutral Political Views Independent Nation in Lazarus Omega Ambassador 1 Discord Omega	I think this is more than appropriate and should be put in place as soon as possible.



Aumelodia	Jul 15 2017, 07:38 PM Post #8
🌺 His Divine Eminence Posts: 584 Group: Accused Member #495 Joined: Dec 20, 2016 Alignment Lawful Good Military Stance Neutral Political Views Independent Nation in Lazarus Aumelodia Discord Somyrion#8047	I fully agree with this.



Drall	Jul 16 2017, 02:24 AM Post #9
Wildly Popular Scoundrel Posts: 173 Group: Citizen Member #584 Joined: Apr 13, 2017 Political Views Capitalist Alignment Neutral Evil Nation in Lazarus The Sleeping	Full support.



Drop Your Pants	Jul 16 2017, 08:04 PM Post #10
🐑 Lazarse 🐑 Posts: 8,388,607 Group: Members Member #143 Joined: May 5, 2015 Alignment Lawful Good Military Stance Neutral Political Views Independent Nation in Lazarus Sheeptastic Discord DYP	Wonderful, someone else write it all fancy like.



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