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Amerion | Jul 14 2017, 04:33 PM Post #1 |
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Security Act - click to view Why should we consider this Act? Currently, there are a number of laws which is not consistent with one another in language and structure. This Act standardises these Acts. More importantly, it consolidates our laws into one easy to read law. The intention is for Lazarus' legal code to have chapters. So, if you were interested in looking at what the law is on security, you would only have to look at the Security Act rather than look through multiple ones. The goal is to have a few chapters of laws; and this Act will form one of them. I hope you will find this beneficial and support it. Please feel free to write down any feedback you may have What does the Act do? The Act combines two acts, the Grand Advisor Act and the Persona non grata Act; and includes a section specifying the line of successions. Point-by-point, the Security Act:
Edited by Amerion, Jul 17 2017, 08:17 AM.
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Amerion | Jul 15 2017, 10:47 AM Post #11 |
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@Aumelodia I've changed the wording to 'a sitting prelate.' Does that work better? @Drall Thanks! |
Harmoneia | Jul 15 2017, 11:17 AM Post #12 |
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Currently we are going by Seniority. This, as I understand it, will change it so that the decision for the line of succession will be according to the will of the Sovereign? I feel this is kind of dangerous and reminischent of what happened with the appointment of Stujenske. If this is to be implemented, there should at least be 75% confirmation vote from the Cosmic Council for this succession in order to safeguard ourselves from the past mistake of tending towards an oligarchy. Secondly and more minor, I think the law must clearly state that the Vanguard is comprised of the guardians else it is easy to mistake it to be a separate entity that's solely appointed by the Sovereign in case future generations would refer to this law. |
Amerion | Jul 15 2017, 02:18 PM Post #13 |
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Yes, the Sovereign will decide the line of succession. I do agree, Stu does serve as a warning for absolute power corrupting absolutely. I have edited the proposal to include the 75%+1 threshold. I have also edited it to say The Vanguard shall comprise of no less than three (3) Guardians and no more than seven (7) Guardians. Could someone read the thing and confirm with me that an objective person (so, not me) interprets the thing as saying if the Council does not approve that LoS, the previous LoS will still be in effect? Also, Vanguard was chosen as a name because it was the best thing I could think of. If anyone has any other names, your suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Edited by Amerion, Jul 15 2017, 02:19 PM.
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The13th | Jul 15 2017, 05:19 PM Post #14 |
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No I like the name. It sounds pretty great to me! And I'm liking this Act so far! Edited by The13th, Jul 15 2017, 05:19 PM.
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Amerion | Jul 17 2017, 08:18 AM Post #15 |
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Thank you |
Amerion | Jul 17 2017, 08:18 AM Post #16 |
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(I withdraw this motion for the moment) Edited by Amerion, Jul 17 2017, 08:40 AM.
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Lamb | Jul 17 2017, 08:31 AM Post #17 |
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I'm not sure this should be as it is written. Our court has a maximum of five seats and the ULC and the Mandate specify a three seat minimum. How this is written implies that if we have a five member court and one official no longer resides, then there is a confirmation vote presumably for their replacement. This alone contradicts the Mandate and subsequent laws addressing a vacancy in the court and this wording should be rewritten to reflect our law as it stands. Given the massive setbacks regarding our courts in relation to our laws in the last couple months, I would really hate to see this slide through and potentially bring more drama to the region. Additionally, given that this act is meant to replace substantial parts of existing law, that fact should likely be stated in the act, otherwise we just have an additional law contradicting existing laws. Given that this isn't a formal amendment or repeal of any existing law, making this distinction clear is important. Edited by Lamb, Jul 17 2017, 08:36 AM.
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Amerion | Jul 17 2017, 09:21 AM Post #18 |
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Okay, this will be a long reply. With regards to the Mandate, the following sections are relevant to the appointment of Prelates: Celestial Mandate Act: Section 7 - Judicial Power
With regards to the Elections Act, the following sections are relevant to the appointment of Prelates: Elections Act
With regards to the Unified Legal Code, the following sections are relevant to the appointment of Prelates: Unified Legal Code - Judicial Code of The Celestial Union of Lazarus
The Unified Legal Code does not prescribe what must be done in terms of a vacancy on the court - except in cases where the number of Prelates fall below the minimum number. The Elections Act does reference what is to happen when a vacancy arises. In regards to Prelates, it considers the term 'elect' to mean a simple majority confirmation vote; and 'vacancy' as its literal meaning. The Celestial Mandate Act specifically states that an absence of a Prelate would require a confirmation vote to be held by this Council. I have looked at all three Acts that you have referenced and in my opinion, there is not a discernable contradiction. I am glad you bring up the potential contradictions, as it raises a very important discussion point. While this particular proposal should not contain contradictions to existing law (but rather, should operate in tandem with existing law), there are a number of contradictions elsewhere - for example '[1]' (Unified Legal Code - Judicial Code of The Celestial Union of Lazarus, Article I – Composition of the Court (2)) is not in line with the four month period stipulated in the Celestial Mandate Act. The question is how best to address the issue for the future. I have written similar proposals for the Elections Act and Council Procedures Act but both do not necessarily conform with the C.M.A as they do not include provisions relating to the Celestial Being, etc. Therefore, the options that I can think of so far are: (1) That as the C.M.A is the supreme law, it may be advisable to address the simplification of that first, then progress with the remaining laws; or (2) Pass (numerous) amendments to existing law which would (legally (avoid contradictions)) allow for other laws; or (3) Pass an omnibus package; or (4) Leave the law as it is and proceed with incremental changes. |
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