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Court needs a Defense Attorney
Tweet Topic Started: Sep 5 2016, 06:20 PM (246 Views)
Constie	Sep 5 2016, 06:20 PM Post #1
Chief Justice Emeritus of the Grand Court Posts: 830 Group: Accused Member #132 Joined: Apr 28, 2015 Alignment Lawful Good Military Stance Neutral Political Views Independent	The Court needs an attorney to defend Union of Antartica, who will be charged in absentia for treason and conspiracy. We also need a procescutor.

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Constie	Sep 8 2016, 12:15 PM Post #11
Chief Justice Emeritus of the Grand Court Posts: 830 Group: Accused Member #132 Joined: Apr 28, 2015 Alignment Lawful Good Military Stance Neutral Political Views Independent	Funkadelia Sep 6 2016, 04:37 PM Constie Sep 6 2016, 12:14 PM As I said earlier, Union of Antartica will not be present for the trial. Antartica should still have a chance for innocence, which is why I ask. I do not see any reason for the Lazarene revulsion to trials. You understand that Lazarus has a non-adversarial trial system... Right? Yes. But we need to change that, because, quite frankly, I believe that the adversarial system is much better for defending themselves.



Funkadelia	Sep 9 2016, 06:28 AM Post #12
Posts: 2,155 Group: King of the Undead Member #86 Joined: Apr 22, 2015 Alignment Chaotic Neutral Military Stance Raider Political Views Socialist Nation in Lazarus Funkadelia	Constie Sep 8 2016, 12:15 PM Funkadelia Sep 6 2016, 04:37 PM Constie Sep 6 2016, 12:14 PM As I said earlier, Union of Antartica will not be present for the trial. Antartica should still have a chance for innocence, which is why I ask. I do not see any reason for the Lazarene revulsion to trials. You understand that Lazarus has a non-adversarial trial system... Right? Yes. But we need to change that, because, quite frankly, I believe that the adversarial system is much better for defending themselves. Well that's not how it works. Do you understand how it works? I think it's a serious issue if our Chief Justice doesn't understand how our trials function



Roavin	Sep 9 2016, 06:59 AM Post #13
Whole lotta Roavin! Posts: 103 Group: Accused Member #406 Joined: Aug 17, 2016 Nation in Lazarus Lazarene Roavin Discord Roavin#5410	Besides, the non-adversarial system does not exclude defenses (In fact, the ULC encourages it!), it just has to be a submission of evidence (possibly with commentary), not just pure commentary. Quote: (4) During the inquiry the Chief Justice will conduct an investigation into the matter, seeking to establish the facts. Any interested party may make evidentiary submissions, with the citizen presenting the allegations and the accused both encouraged to do so.



The Church of Satan	Sep 9 2016, 07:58 AM Post #14
I HAVE CHORTLES! Posts: 861 Group: Accused Member #7 Joined: Apr 8, 2015 Alignment Lawful Good Military Stance Neutral Political Views Independent Nation in Lazarus Lazarus CoS	Exactly. Lazarus has a court of facts. Not lawyer trickery. We can't have a system where those on trial can twist and distort the meaning of our laws to their advantage.



Constie	Sep 9 2016, 12:10 PM Post #15
Chief Justice Emeritus of the Grand Court Posts: 830 Group: Accused Member #132 Joined: Apr 28, 2015 Alignment Lawful Good Military Stance Neutral Political Views Independent	Funkadelia Sep 9 2016, 06:28 AM Constie Sep 8 2016, 12:15 PM Funkadelia Sep 6 2016, 04:37 PM Constie Sep 6 2016, 12:14 PM As I said earlier, Union of Antartica will not be present for the trial. Antartica should still have a chance for innocence, which is why I ask. I do not see any reason for the Lazarene revulsion to trials. You understand that Lazarus has a non-adversarial trial system... Right? Yes. But we need to change that, because, quite frankly, I believe that the adversarial system is much better for defending themselves. Well that's not how it works. Do you understand how it works? I think it's a serious issue if our Chief Justice doesn't understand how our trials function I'm sure you understand that not liking something is not a lack of understanding, funk. So yes, I understand, I just don't like it. As for the matter at hand, I would much rather have one person organizing a defense with evidence and what not, rather then all of Lazarus trying to argue, as in previous legal decisions



Roavin	Sep 9 2016, 12:23 PM Post #16
Whole lotta Roavin! Posts: 103 Group: Accused Member #406 Joined: Aug 17, 2016 Nation in Lazarus Lazarene Roavin Discord Roavin#5410	Well, there shouldn't really be much arguing in a non-adversarial system, just submission of facts and maybe associated commentary. The justices then decide (possibly after gathering more evidence themselves). That's kinda the point of a non-adversarial system...



Funkadelia	Sep 9 2016, 04:27 PM Post #17
Posts: 2,155 Group: King of the Undead Member #86 Joined: Apr 22, 2015 Alignment Chaotic Neutral Military Stance Raider Political Views Socialist Nation in Lazarus Funkadelia	Roavin Sep 9 2016, 12:23 PM Well, there shouldn't really be much arguing in a non-adversarial system, just submission of facts and maybe associated commentary. The justices then decide (possibly after gathering more evidence themselves). That's kinda the point of a non-adversarial system... Exactly this. There is only room for the submission of evidence in our courtroom. All other commentary and arguing breaks decorum and would not be allowed.



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