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| Topic Started: Sep 12 2016, 10:59 PM (240 Views) | |
| UnitedMoreland | Sep 12 2016, 10:59 PM Post #1 |
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Having recently seen Sad-States declare that he may not be able to dedicate much time to Audaxia I believe decisions need to be made, and that we have an oppurtunity. In recent weeks Audaxia has ground to a halt, if the region is to survive it needs something to kick start it. Here is what I propose should Sad-States formally leave. 1. We appoint someone (I suggest Malson if willing) to have admin rights over the forum. 2. We give all nations 1 week to "Report In" any not doing so get sent a warning, 1 week later they are removed from the map. 3. A RP Soft Reset. A new rule is determined for nation size and applications. All RP is considered to be past history and everything starts from now. Wars are over, treaties don't exist. 4.We appoint a new government. 5. We start recruitment. So thoughts and opinions. |
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| Nova | Sep 13 2016, 05:44 AM Post #2 |
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I say it is a good idea. I would even say it is a good idea, and making some arrangement.. Like getting rid of huge nations that make the RP unrealistic along militaries, consider an economical RP (just stating their GDP) for those who didn't, and the RP Council deciding who can have nukes ! Just the fact that all treaties and wars are past, okay (so still active), but considering they never exist as it is what you are doing, simply no, no no no. |
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| Gondor | Sep 15 2016, 12:26 PM Post #3 |
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The decrease in activity saddens me. I don't blame anyone, as life comes before rp, but I like some of your ideas, UM. Nova: what you are proposing is getting rid of me. However, I am a member of this region and enjoy rp, just as you do. Are my nations large? Yes, but none of them are as large as China, and my military for Uniformitarian isn't nearly proportional to my population. Gondor is the power, and I intended it that way. You always want drastic measures that would seem to take away the enjoyment out of rp. I like you and think you're funny, but your version of "hard realism" is so hard that you would have us all rping as city-states and there be no world powers. That's not realism. That's an entitlement mentality that everyone should be equal simply because we all play the same game. Is there to be no thought given to merit, factbook detail, and activity in rp? In the real world, that's how things work. You reap what you sow, and I don't want other players reaping what I have sown. |
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| UnitedMoreland | Sep 15 2016, 03:37 PM Post #4 |
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The issue is more the fact that we're stuck in a vicious cycle. 1. There is no activity in the region for RL reasons etc. 2. Those with no life (boohoo) have nothing to RP or essentially RP the same things over and over and therefore drift off. 3. New people see the region and check us out, we look inactive. 4. The region becomes more inactive. Sadly I think the issue is unless we actually resolve to do something the next step is death. I am already aware several people from here have a nation also in TIO, no issue with that. I'm probably one of the most active people here and in TIO, but I have a job where I can sit near a computer most days. I think we need to consider whether in its present form Audaxia is something we all want to continue with as otherwise what I can see happening is that the region will essentially become two or three people writing pre-determined stories. I suppose we need to either make some changes to make ourselves more welcoming to new people and therefore create activity and get more people interacting with more people to create the impression of activity. |
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| Gad | Sep 17 2016, 10:07 AM Post #5 |
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It's funny you mention being forced to play as city-states. Despite me being an experienced RPer who wanted to RP a decent sized nation I was forced by the rules to play as a city-state because the nation I happened to place in Audaxia had such a small population. It automatically took me out of any RP while there were nations with billions in population and some of the worst and vague factbooks I've ever seen. Now you're going extremely far to label someone for having an entitlement mentality when his opinion was merely 'lower populations'. Big nations are fine, however Audaxia takes it to an extreme and creates world powers x100 with all value of realism and compromise thrown out of the window. It's some of the worst RP i've seen and itself is entitled and too self-involved while ignoring newer people. What's not being proposed is too say, completely nerf Gondor, or any other power, but have some sensibility and tact in RP, not just 'massive nations everywhere' or 'lol i'm a superpower'. But you know what, with your kind of mentality of non-compromise and own self-entitlement Gondor, this region will die and will be a repository for you to keep your massive, unrealistic, vague superpower. And sorry if I'm being rude, but someone needs to say the truth as some of the few last words of this region. also had to create a new account for some reason? Edited by Gad, Sep 17 2016, 10:13 AM.
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| Gondor | Sep 17 2016, 05:41 PM Post #6 |
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I never said I wouldn't nerf my population. I was in fact willing to compromise when Avhali proposed something about population. I'm okay with being around 150 million for Gondor, actually. What you phrase as non-compromise and self-entitlement, I phrase as protecting the interests of larger nations. But from what I've seen from those who want the population nerfs, under UM's previous proposal, I would've had under 100 million in population. Notice that I am willing to nerf Gondor's population by 437 million people from my current population of 581 million. Don't assume I'm not reasonable. The reason that I used the word entitlement with Nova is because it seems to me that he wants everyone to have to rp at his small level, which would have us all at say, 70 million or less. That's great, if you like rping small. I may actually rp small with Uniformitarian. Also, even though Gondor had a population of 581 million, did you think to look in my factbook and see that I had a military of just over 3 million. That's a fraction of one percent of that population. And other than with Caos and the Franco-Tyskland incident, did you ever see my military waving its banner around smaller nations? No? I thought not. Now, I will admit faults in my factbook. Is it as realistic as it should be? No, not at all! Is it vague? Yes, and I need to get some serious lore going. And here's the thing: I still value you as a member, Gadshack. I'm glad that you care enough to call me out. I may be extremely stubborn, but I am thankful for you having a contrary opinion to mine so that we can work out these kinks. Gadshack, maybe I need to get with you and have you help me figure out some details for realism. My idea of realism, admittedly has been far too skewed. I was and am wrong about having a huge population that no one else can compete with and a factbook that has little detail to tell other roles what to expect from me. I do, however, believe that I owe an apology to Nova. Nova, I'm sorry. We may disagree, but that never gives me the right to call you names. That's not what rp is about, nor should it ever be. Audaxia should be a place where we can get along and solve our differences more peacefully. I've been a part of the vicious cycle, and will make no excuses to say that I'm perfect and without fault. So, to you Gadshack, I say sorry. I'm sorry that I was selfish enough to make you feel like you had to be rude. I'm willing to work with the rest of the members on a serious population regulation. |
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| UnitedMoreland | Sep 17 2016, 05:56 PM Post #7 |
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Nice to see people willing to sort stuff. I think the issue is beyond just population reforms, it has to be something that will get people active too. We've essentially RP'd in pockets and lacked activity as people drift off getting bored or feeling no point trying to do anything big because people don't care. Until we address that I sadly feel we're flogging a dead horse. |
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| Avhali | Sep 18 2016, 01:14 AM Post #8 |
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If this happens i would like to shrink nations down a bit. So room does not get taken up by large nations and their puppets. Also would like a clarification on how we determine Economic strength and Military strength. If we are to keep things concrete in RP. Perhaps a simple formula. And if we to figure that out, then it should be in the Welcoming page. So no one is left wondering about it. |
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| Teutonic Union | Sep 18 2016, 09:36 AM Post #9 |
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Hate to say this but the best RP regions don't really use formulas to detrmine econmic and military strength. The people using it realise that the point of RP is story telling not competition. So for example if it wasn't for the Audaxia rules on population and the military expansion mentality of superpowerful nations here I wouldn't have the Teutonic UNion, I'd have liked to create a kind of African Union that would have been smaller, poorer, chaotic and full of cultural issues. However I felt that wouldn't be permitted to flourish here. Rules stifle creativity, the fewer the better. It's attitudes that need to change around here mainly and see RP for what it should be, creativity not "can my country be the biggest and best" until that changes your not going to get new members and its going to push people away. |
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| Gad | Sep 18 2016, 01:15 PM Post #10 |
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TU speaks truth. The best solution isn't rules but 'standards' and communal consensus, this encourages a storytelling environment instead of a super-nation building one. This isn't the only way to RP ofcourse, there is the exclusive competitive-seeming way of RP that can be embraced to appease a certain niche, it depends where the community wants to go. Prescription for Audaxia(imo): no rules, and cool-headed conversation about forming your nations. Talk about standards and allow freedom of creativity to a reasonable consent. For example, not allowing someone to have a super nation of over 300 million with 10 aircraft carriers and a 90,000 gdp pc isn't stifling creativity, it's just asking for some realism, 100 million with 2 or 3 and a gdp pc of 40,000 to 60,000 is very reasonable and not overbearing. This can also mean better nation-building, once standards are placed and decent discussion about it can be carried out, people are naturally more encouraged to include things like religion, culture, economics, etc, about their nation. To Gonder: It's okay and I'm sorry for getting intense there for a sec. I'm glad some common ground can be found. |
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